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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg gene and Chris on

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the para cast we are back from the

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International UFO Congress at Fort

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McDowell and Arizona near Scottsdale and

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was a more interesting event than last

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year in the sense the crowds were a lot

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bigger don't you think Chris yeah I

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guess that's a direct reflection on the

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quality of speakers that they had this

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year which was a great leap ahead of

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where they were last year

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almost on par with the first year I

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didn't get any estimates of crowns I

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asked them for it I thought you know six

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seven hundred people something like that

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maybe a bit more oh there was way more

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than that they think so yeah it was well

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over a thousand okay I guess until I get

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real estimate we'll just have to fight

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the gas but I was looking at the speech

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given by Jim Fox who was the UFO

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documentarian and a formerly a co-host

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of chasing UFOs and obviously will never

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go back to that show and he got a pretty

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good crowd it was pretty well filled the

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auditorium but the one thing I did

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notice among all this is where are the

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young people yeah well that's that's

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just a reoccurring theme at these types

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of old school events you know the I

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think the age of the the big UFO

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conference is on the wane I think we're

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gonna be seeing a lot more of these

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types of events as time marches forward

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on you know online I really think

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there's no inducement for kids to come

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in and squirm around with their butts in

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the seat I don't think that paradigms

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gonna last much longer they don't have

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the patience for it and you have to look

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also the demographics right now and this

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is one of the things of course that

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people consider like for example when

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we're talking to an advertiser about the

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power cast they want to know about our

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listener profile which is in that magic

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25 to 49 year age group and if all our

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listeners were older than that we get no

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advertising whatever whatever we do gets

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because we have good demographics right

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but yet look at the demographics for

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something like a you

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UFO conference and I kind of think this

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applies to all of them so at what point

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do they give up this paradigm and try

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something new and different well when

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they start losing money it's probably I

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do think that there was a good turnout

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this year

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like I said they did have a much I think

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better lineup of speakers the night

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portion of the Saturday part of the

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conference so was really well attended

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it was standing room only

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for David Childress's talking but you're

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right gene the average age in there was

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probably somewhere in the 60s and I

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don't want to cover any of our company

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but also you know hang around a lot over

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at the vendor booths and we had all

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sorts of people there but we also had a

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lot of standbys like Stanton Friedman

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was sitting there and Richard Dolan and

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Phyllis called E from fate magazine she

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vows they're going to be on a more

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regular schedule this year so we found a

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lot of good friends had a brief talk

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with dr. Roger Leir he's the fellow who

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recovered so-called implants alien

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implants that apparently are connected

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with UFO abductions if we're going to

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have him on the show soon going to have

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a lot of fascinating guests as a matter

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of fact another example grant Cameron

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has a new UFO book that's out about what

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the government knows what the

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president's might have known and then

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rosemary ellen guiley has a brand new

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book you want to tell us about that one

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yeah kind of a part two to the first

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book that she she co-wrote actually the

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first book got on the Djinn and this

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next book goes into even more detail and

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has some of her case study said she's

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been involved with and I haven't had a

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chance to look at the book yet but it

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looks very very good rosemary is a very

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accomplished writer and top-notch field

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researcher I have been out in the field

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with her and I learned a few things

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actually and I'm looking forward to

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getting robach on and the one thing here

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is that she doesn't have to contend with

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a certain co-author who shall go unnamed

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yeah yep she escaped by the skin of her

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teeth getting slimed by that whole deal

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and I haven't heard anything about that

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person since then which is also pretty

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good

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yeah so maybe the fact that lance moody

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and of course Don Ecker and of course

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your friends on the para casts we expose

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that this is the kind of thing we do

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that other shows do not do they just

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listen no they asked a question it's

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like okay tell me everything you know

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well I shot seven people today and then

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the next question would be well yeah but

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do you have any hobbies

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I know it's just it's pretty grim but

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that's why we're here gene separating

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the signal from the noise it's hard you

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know it requires extra effort it

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requires actually doing work which is

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very different than a lot of these other

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people are doing speaking of work Kris

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and I are engaged in all sorts of

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different projects for example I'm

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taking the contents of this magazine

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that my first wife Geneva and I did

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years ago called

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caveat emptor and pulling out some of

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the really terrific interviews that we

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did like with Richard shaver and Ray

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Palmer and Curtis and Mary fuller and

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Jim Mosley Tim Beckley and a lot of

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people who weren't ever interviewed

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anywhere and those things and special

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feature articles including from John

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keel and from Jim Mosley will appear in

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this collection meantime you've got a

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book that you're working on for this

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fall stalking the herd tell us more

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about it well you know I think I might

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have mentioned this a little last week

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but I've been working slowly researching

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the whole subject of unexplained

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livestock deaths with cattle mutilations

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if you will and attempted to shop a book

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on this subject 12 years ago and I think

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the timing was just off I scared scared

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all the editors at the publishing

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companies and did not land a deal you

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know I've taken it out and brushed it

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off and I have a lot of new information

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obviously that I've gathered over the

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12-year period since 99 2000 when I

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originally shot it and I'm gonna go

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ahead and him finally get this book

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completed and out it it's a subject that

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there's a lot of misperceptions and kind

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of pop-culture programming that's

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involved in

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people's you know the amount of

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knowledge and the quality of knowledge

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people have about cattle mutilations and

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this is gonna be a real exhaustive look

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at you know humankind's relationships

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with bovine and and how that dovetails

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into this mystery that we call the

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cattle mutilation phenomenon so it's a

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lot of work but I do plan to have it out

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in about the end of September beginning

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of October I'm gonna ask you one

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question maybe is kind of a hint as to

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what the readers can expect what is one

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popular myth that you're going to expose

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and stalking the herd well there's quite

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a number of them the first one is how

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pervasive the actual phenomenon and he

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is it's nowhere near as pervasive I

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think as most people suspect the fact

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that these animals aren't cut with

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lasers or high heat for the most part

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there are some cases but most are not

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and that these animals are drained of

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blood and fluids I mean that's a big one

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everybody just assumes that and and

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we're gonna really look at the evidence

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to support that particular misperception

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or misnomer you know it's like it's like

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UFOs gene we should be able to explain

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you know eighty to ninety percent of all

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UFO cases so with some sort of prosaic

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uh mundane explanation and the same

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holds true I think for the unexplained

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livestock death phenomenon most of these

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cases are unusual scavenger action that

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appears to be high strange to uh to the

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untrained eye hey this week we have a

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fascinating guest this is one of the

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a-level guests that go on the power cast

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and really go on any of the other shows

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tell us what to expect well you know

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most of our longtime listeners of course

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are going to recognize the name of dr.

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Russell Targ he and how put off started

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the Stanford Research Institute back in

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1971-72

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for many years they worked for the CIA

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at points doing remote viewing of

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targets all around the world of course

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he can go Swann but we just lost

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recently a couple of months ago Ingo was

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was key in setting up the protocols and

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Joe mcmoneagle Pat price the list goes

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on and on some of the remote view

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with incredible results and the book

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that he's written is called the reality

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of ESP and the subtitle is a physicists

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proof of psychic abilities and I'm

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three-quarters of the way through the

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book and I am astounded at some of the

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statistical information that they've

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been able to to demonstrate and

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replicate that shows without any

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question that there's such thing as

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precognition and so I'm really looking

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forward to speaking with dr. Targ we're

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real real fortunate to have him on the

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show dr. Russell Targ joining gene and

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welcome to the para cast Russell Targ

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his book is called the reality of ESP a

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physicists proof of psychic abilities

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dr. Targ let me ask you of all the

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things one could do in their lives

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getting involved in the study of ESP

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remote viewing all that stuff

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how did it happen for you well the

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reason for getting interested in psychic

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abilities for a listeners point of view

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you can use your ESP to find your lost

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car keys and that's useful and you can

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find parking places and I watch the

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market going up this morning could make

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money in the stock market as we did but

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more than that you can discover who you

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are I'm going to ask you though your

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journey how did you get involved in the

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subject well I was a childhood magician

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so I grew up in New York doing magic on

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a stage as a college student and as many

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magicians experience I found that from

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time to time in pretending to read

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somebody's mind I would get a picture of

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what their house looked like visual

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image hallucination information so I

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could fold my visual image that I had of

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this person into my act I had learned

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which of those are correct and I was

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recently on the air talking with the

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great Kreskin who said all year every

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magician knows that we just don't talk

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about it so a chance to talk with him

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for an hour and midnight radio in New

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York about folio psychic impressions

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into your magic act but eventually as a

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physics student I became aware that

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there was real research going on in

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parapsychology and I gave up stage magic

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for learning how to teach people to get

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in touch with the psychic abilities so

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in nineteen seven

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- I quit doing laser work in Sylvania

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with a civilian electric company and I

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started an ESP program at Stanford

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Research Institute and from there what

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were you looking forward to before you

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went there did you look for some kind of

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indication hey what I've experienced as

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a stage magician for example this is

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real and this is what's happening well

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as a physicist I wanted to know how it's

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possible that a person can quiet their

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mind and experience what's going on in

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the distance and in the future that I

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had before joining Silva before joining

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SLI and creating that program I had

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built an ESP teaching machine and I had

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a chance to bring that to a nasa

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conference and talk to our Wernher von

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Braun and the administrator of NASA Jim

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Fletcher and proposed that they support

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a program at Sanford and von Braun did

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very very well with my ESP teaching

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machine and he encouraged the

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administrator to give us some money to

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learn first of all how to help

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astronauts get in touch with the

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spacecraft that was one of the things I

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wanted to do and the other is a

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brainwave experiment where I proposed

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two flashlights in the eyes of one

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person and see if his friend in another

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room would get the change in their

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brainwaves corresponding to the way we

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were torturing the friend and we did

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both of those and the good news is for

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listeners is my ESP teaching machine is

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online as a free application for the

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iPhone so if you go to the App Store you

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can download something called ESP

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trainer and it's exactly the fortress

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machine we used in our NASA program to

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help people get in touch with their

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psychic abilities and it's my gift it's

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a free application now obviously to be

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equal opportunity offenders here you

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have an iOS version for the iPhone what

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about for people who have Android phones

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will there be a version for them there's

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not

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version for the Android I live in

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Silicon Valley here with the flagship

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Apple store a half a mile from my house

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so I'm basically I'm not a cellphone

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programmer I outlined the game based on

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what I had done before and that I had to

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pay a real programmer to put it on the

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Apple platform and since I received no

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money for this I think that putting it

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on the apples as far as I wanted to go

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with that when you have to do your own

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investment then it's best to go where as

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they say the traffic is and it's also

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probably a little easier and more

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predictable to go on the Apple platform

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then is an Android because you have so

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many different models and I again put on

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the Apple platform and invite people to

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write to me when they get very good

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scores and about 25,000 downloads in the

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year since I gave this away and quite

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another number of people write to me and

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said I'm I know I'm only expected to get

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six hits out of 24 but I'm getting

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twelve or fourteen and I'm interested to

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chat with them about their mental state

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when they get these extremely high

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scores because that's what we saw in the

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NASA program people can learn what it

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feels like when they're being psychic

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cuz I've been teaching remote viewing

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now for twenty years and it's very fun

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to teach because people catch on very

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quickly I had to tell you what I mean by

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remote viewing and see activity we were

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pursuing at Stanford it's the ability

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that people have to quiet their mind

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and then describe and experience what's

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happening in the distance or what's

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happening in the future now I should

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tell you before you go on dr. Targ we

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have had discussions of the subject from

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time to time on the power cast as a

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matter of fact we had a person from the

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UK das Smith who did a remote viewing

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experiment with us and he succeeded good

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well there's so much fun to teach remote

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viewing is that it's easy to do that I'm

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not actually teaching anything I'm just

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giving people permission to make use of

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ability they already have

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so if I stand on the stage at a workshop

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or a lecture I've been teaching the

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Deepak Chopra for several years and it's

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very much fun because he has already

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softened these people up taught them to

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meditate and they're very receptive so I

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will show up with my weird object of the

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day in a bag quiet the people down and

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as and just guide them to describe the

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object and I have very very great

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success in people making drawings of my

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weird object of the month so it's easy

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to do we have the ability and I have two

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interests right now one is to help

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people learn to do remote viewing and

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incorporate their their lives as a

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physicist my interest is to know how we

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can dream about the future if I have a

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dream tonight well recently I know that

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telling somebody about the dream is like

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telling about their last acid trip not

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so interesting but as a prop all I had a

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dream just a few days ago about driving

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with my wife son in his fancy new car

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and in the dream we were rolling down a

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hill and he couldn't stop the car

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now you think that's an anxiety dream

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but in the dream I tried to pull the

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gearshift pull the emergency brake and

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eventually we stopped there was a dream

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the very first thing I've heard on my

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bedside radio when I got up in the

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morning was about a tour bus at Lake

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Arrowhead in California taking skiers

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home the brakes failed the thing rolled

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downhill and crashed into the back of a

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truck killing a bunch of people so I

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would say that my dream my anxiety dream

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about riding in a car which I've never

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done that dream about the car was caused

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by hearing the event on the radio two

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hours later so it's an example of a

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future affecting the past dr. Russell

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Targ joining gene and Chris much more to

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589
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this is the wrong tire cluster of the up

590
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on psycho feed in other books you're

591
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listening to the parent cab I'm dr.

592
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:11,260
Russell Targ his book is called the

593
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reality of ESP a physicist proof of

594
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:14,890
psychic abilities

595
00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:18,010
dr. target was telling us about an

596
00:26:21,930 --> 00:26:20,470
experience where he dreamed of a tragedy

597
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:21,940
that occurred two hours later let me

598
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:23,410
tell you about my experience here which

599
00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:29,230
crisp I've heard six weeks before 911 my

600
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wife my son and I went to New York from

601
00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:34,660
Arizona to attend the Macworld Expo one

602
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:36,160
of the last Mack worlds to be held in

603
00:26:41,370 --> 00:26:38,410
New York City speaking of being a Mac

604
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user and everything okay so we went up

605
00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:43,660
to the World Trade Center and just to

606
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give you example how everything was

607
00:26:48,990 --> 00:26:47,710
weird right at the entrance one of the

608
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entrances to the World Trade Center

609
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dropped my camera and broke the lens

610
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okay so that was the end of taking

611
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:57,370
pictures during that event you know

612
00:27:00,990 --> 00:26:58,690
we're gonna have smartphones with

613
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cameras and everything next thing I

614
00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:03,190
don't like Heights Oh we might attribute

615
00:27:09,870 --> 00:27:04,750
it to the fact that I don't like Heights

616
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if you recall you take the elevator to

617
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the top of the World Trade Center and

618
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then there's an escalator it takes you

619
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up to the observation tower or a deck or

620
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whatever it is mm-hmm well once we got

621
00:27:24,990 --> 00:27:21,430
out of the elevator I had to sit down I

622
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:25,000
fell a tremendous amount of anxiety and

623
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I wouldn't go up the escalator I told my

624
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:29,590
wife do what you want to do told my son

625
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:31,930
do what you want to do I'll sit here not

626
00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:33,310
feeling really good about it you know I

627
00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:34,840
grabbed a cup of coffee and try to relax

628
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:38,440
it couldn't I could not wait to get out

629
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of that place and of course what five

630
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:43,810
six weeks later we had 9/11 I don't know

631
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:45,370
if there's any connection it might just

632
00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:47,590
be a bad day for me but that's what

633
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:49,630
happened what do you think well a lot of

634
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:53,650
people had anticipate Ori dreams or bad

635
00:27:59,100 --> 00:27:56,650
feeling was about 9/11 for example I was

636
00:28:02,550 --> 00:27:59,110
in Italy I had I flew out of the country

637
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:02,560
on the 10th residence the 11th who had a

638
00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:05,320
conference coming up in Italy and I do I

639
00:28:11,610 --> 00:28:07,630
laugh today early I don't know if that's

640
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:11,620
a psychic prediction or just my usual

641
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:14,559
anxiety but I had a presentation on the

642
00:28:20,370 --> 00:28:17,289
12th so I threw out on the 10th and I

643
00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:20,380
got the New York Herald Tribune on the

644
00:28:26,370 --> 00:28:24,340
12th in Italy and they listed the four

645
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:26,380
airplanes the number of people who were

646
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,690
killed on each of them and at that time

647
00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:30,880
I was working for Lockheed missiles

648
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:34,150
based work an airplane safety us putting

649
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:36,159
lasers on airplanes to measure wind

650
00:28:40,860 --> 00:28:38,650
shear because my roots in the beginning

651
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:40,870
and my earliest incarnation I was a

652
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:44,320
laser physicist so after the Stanford

653
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:47,049
program and psychic experience that I

654
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:50,529
went back by our laser roots so anyway I

655
00:28:56,190 --> 00:28:53,289
was in in Italy and I got the Hill

656
00:28:58,919 --> 00:28:56,200
Tribune and what I could tell at a quick

657
00:29:00,840 --> 00:28:58,929
scan is there were less than half as

658
00:29:03,419 --> 00:29:00,850
many people as you would expect on each

659
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:03,429
other's airplane in fact I've now looked

660
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:05,919
it up and discussed it in my book the

661
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:09,130
reality vsb the load factor for the poor

662
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:11,740
airplanes was about 30% so you've got

663
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,110
all these nice morning commute flights

664
00:29:19,649 --> 00:29:17,440
coast-to-coast airplanes and for some

665
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:19,659
reason lots of people decided not to get

666
00:29:24,210 --> 00:29:22,000
on them beforehand so it's as though

667
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:24,220
they had psychic feeling their sinking

668
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:27,130
feeling and I recently met a couple who

669
00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:29,890
canceled their plans just a couple of

670
00:29:35,399 --> 00:29:32,380
days before they were going to fly no

671
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:35,409
reason they just felt very anxious about

672
00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:37,450
flying and did not get on the airplane

673
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:41,140
and hundreds of people had those anxious

674
00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:44,049
feelings because the only 30 percent of

675
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:45,700
the people who would normally fly were

676
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:49,090
on board now that's the point here this

677
00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:52,000
is not something that's special it's an

678
00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:54,669
ability you say that we all have is just

679
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:56,380
a matter of developing it now

680
00:30:00,299 --> 00:29:57,970
specifically with regard to remote

681
00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:00,309
viewing as I take it being able to see

682
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:01,990
something that's happening somewhere

683
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:04,330
else this was obviously of great

684
00:30:10,019 --> 00:30:06,250
interest to governments because wouldn't

685
00:30:12,570 --> 00:30:10,029
it be nice to have a spy say in Russia

686
00:30:15,090 --> 00:30:12,580
China or whatever without the physical

687
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:15,100
danger of having a physical presence who

688
00:30:20,639 --> 00:30:18,490
might get caught tortured or killed it

689
00:30:23,870 --> 00:30:20,649
would be very nice in fact our principal

690
00:30:25,460 --> 00:30:23,880
financial support was in the CIA from

691
00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:25,470
1972 and

692
00:30:32,970 --> 00:30:29,950
1995 we did various operational things

693
00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:32,980
for the CIA always found a downed air

694
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:36,460
put down Russian airplane in Africa we

695
00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:39,250
located a kidnapped American hostage in

696
00:30:46,410 --> 00:30:43,140
Italy we looked in the American hostages

697
00:30:49,170 --> 00:30:46,420
when they were in Iran and a number of

698
00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:49,180
other things we described a Chinese

699
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:52,060
atomic bomb test three days before it

700
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:55,690
occurred we will say yes the atomic bomb

701
00:31:00,840 --> 00:30:57,760
test would take place but it would fail

702
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:00,850
because all the great psychic Ingo Swann

703
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:03,670
what he saw was a big pyrotechnic

704
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:06,640
display in the sky no mushroom cloud

705
00:31:11,550 --> 00:31:08,470
three days in advance

706
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:11,560
those DIA people with us would know from

707
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:14,290
that that's the kind of pyrotechnic

708
00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:16,210
display you get when you burn uranium

709
00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:19,660
and not from studying off a bomb so we

710
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:22,060
knew three days in advance that yes the

711
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:24,070
Chinese would do their test and then it

712
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:26,590
would fail so we had many operational

713
00:31:33,270 --> 00:31:29,530
things like that the deal we made with

714
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:33,280
the devil as young scientists we were

715
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:35,580
not particularly keen to work the CIA

716
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:38,410
but we made a deal with them very

717
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:40,750
intelligent director of intelligence

718
00:31:46,890 --> 00:31:44,170
that the CIA agreed with our proposal

719
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:46,900
that we would spend half our time doing

720
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:49,570
whatever operational things they wanted

721
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:53,170
us to do find people describe factories

722
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:55,360
so forth the other half of the time we

723
00:31:59,340 --> 00:31:57,130
would do research and try to understand

724
00:32:01,860 --> 00:31:59,350
how ESP work and they agreed with that

725
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:01,870
and they kept their agreement for the

726
00:32:07,650 --> 00:32:04,510
duration of the program so while we were

727
00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:07,660
finding hostages and locating airplanes

728
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:10,150
on the one hand we were also publishing

729
00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:12,640
our work in nature magazine as a

730
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:15,160
Proceedings of the engineering Society

731
00:32:21,810 --> 00:32:18,280
in various other places so CIA did not

732
00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:21,820
interfere with our dissemination of the

733
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:24,190
remote viewing result and we paid the

734
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:27,400
wages by doing operational things for

735
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:29,110
them which obviously you couldn't

736
00:32:35,070 --> 00:32:31,510
divulge because some of them I'm sure

737
00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:35,080
we're classified but all we can now you

738
00:32:39,070 --> 00:32:37,990
can read my new book is interesting is

739
00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:39,080
that I

740
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:41,960
I got a lot of material Declassified in

741
00:32:47,769 --> 00:32:44,510
fact I in the new book in the reality of

742
00:32:51,310 --> 00:32:47,779
ESP I published my letter to me from the

743
00:32:53,860 --> 00:32:51,320
CIA saying that I can describe what in

744
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:53,870
the reports that they sent back to me so

745
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:55,010
I published a letter

746
00:32:59,680 --> 00:32:57,289
they won't even think about doing me

747
00:33:03,100 --> 00:32:59,690
well that brings up an interesting point

748
00:33:05,620 --> 00:33:03,110
dr. why was project Aquarius and in

749
00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:05,630
the official military and government

750
00:33:11,950 --> 00:33:08,230
involvement in remote viewing uh

751
00:33:13,659 --> 00:33:11,960
supposedly canceled was was this some

752
00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:13,669
sort of red herring or they actually do

753
00:33:18,820 --> 00:33:15,230
think they're continuing this type of

754
00:33:21,639 --> 00:33:18,830
work there's not a name that I know our

755
00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:21,649
program was called grill flame in the

756
00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:24,409
beginning right and Stargate at the end

757
00:33:29,019 --> 00:33:27,590
o Stargate yeah okay I'm sorry I got the

758
00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:29,029
wrong turn here but Project Star Gate

759
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:31,070
why do you think because you you had

760
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:34,610
such spectacular successes why did they

761
00:33:39,129 --> 00:33:38,090
not find it as a viable ways of getting

762
00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:39,139
intelligence

763
00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:41,750
well Robert Gates whose secretary

764
00:33:48,610 --> 00:33:45,070
defense recently but at that time was

765
00:33:50,259 --> 00:33:48,620
Kenneth dia did on television said on

766
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:50,269
Nightline we were terminating the

767
00:33:56,769 --> 00:33:53,750
program because the Berlin Wall is down

768
00:33:59,500 --> 00:33:56,779
Soviet Union doesn't exist we really

769
00:34:03,009 --> 00:33:59,510
don't have any serious enemies anymore

770
00:34:07,109 --> 00:34:03,019
we don't need to support an army psychic

771
00:34:10,899 --> 00:34:07,119
core and that was his decision in 1995

772
00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:10,909
we had created an army psychic core 1980

773
00:34:17,409 --> 00:34:14,060
my partner helped put off and I selected

774
00:34:19,869 --> 00:34:17,419
six trainees from a group of people at

775
00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:19,879
port meet army intelligence officers and

776
00:34:25,419 --> 00:34:22,580
we trained those six to remote viewing

777
00:34:28,649 --> 00:34:25,429
and those six have now trained hundreds

778
00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:28,659
of other people so it's as though the

779
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:31,720
father of ESP is Ingo Swann

780
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:33,649
unfortunately died recently

781
00:34:38,829 --> 00:34:36,470
but Ingo taught Helen me to do remote

782
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:38,839
viewing we taught the army and then the

783
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:41,570
Army taught the world so if you look on

784
00:34:47,260 --> 00:34:44,690
Google right now there's more than two

785
00:34:49,869 --> 00:34:47,270
and a half million pages dealing with

786
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:49,879
the remote UE just quite a lot of pages

787
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:52,159
for something that many people think

788
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:52,530
that

789
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:56,310
exist yeah you know let's let's start

790
00:35:00,740 --> 00:34:57,810
back at the beginning a little bit here

791
00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:00,750
with the SR I program one of the first

792
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:02,540
people that you worked with was was a

793
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:05,790
ex-policeman named Pat price who many

794
00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:08,220
consider you know people that research

795
00:35:12,590 --> 00:35:10,920
the remote viewing subject he is widely

796
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:12,600
considered as being probably the most

797
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:14,790
talented of your remote viewers would

798
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,730
Ingo a very high up there as well why

799
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:19,200
don't you tell us a little bit about Pat

800
00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:21,690
price and how some of those early

801
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:25,320
success has really excited you guys and

802
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:27,810
and really kept you moving forward and

803
00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:28,890
actually getting funded by the

804
00:35:32,570 --> 00:35:30,780
government but before we do that we have

805
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:32,580
to do this break we have dr. Russell

806
00:35:46,070 --> 00:35:34,530
Targ joining gene and Chris you're in

807
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:46,080
the para cast is there a secret UFO

808
00:35:51,350 --> 00:35:48,990
agenda estranged creatures from the

809
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:51,360
darkest corners of the mind roam the

810
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:53,730
earth is there evidence for mind-control

811
00:35:59,960 --> 00:35:56,910
time travel or devious government

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hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

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listening to the Peres Cass

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return with us now to those filling days

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of yesteryear as we probe the beginnings

911
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of research into remote viewing with dr.

912
00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:13,230
Russell Targ the book is the reality of

913
00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:15,750
ESP a physicist proof of psychic

914
00:40:18,020 --> 00:40:16,470
abilities

915
00:40:20,570 --> 00:40:18,030
you're on with Gene and Kris and the

916
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:20,580
power cast Chris asked dr. tog a

917
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:23,910
question dr. Targ your answer in the

918
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,640
beginning the CIA was always calling us

919
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:28,800
up on the telephone with little

920
00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:30,810
demonstration ability tale

921
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:33,270
yes we're supporting you but can you

922
00:40:37,940 --> 00:40:35,610
remind us that ESP really worked

923
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:37,950
I'd like you to describe what it looks

924
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:39,780
at like at a particular to the

925
00:40:44,450 --> 00:40:42,210
coordinates that they read to us over

926
00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:44,460
the telephone and we're working with

927
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,640
Ingo Swann who the great psychic who

928
00:40:53,450 --> 00:40:49,920
started us on the path the remote

929
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,460
viewing and Swann described the image

930
00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:55,680
that came to him was sort of a military

931
00:41:01,100 --> 00:40:58,020
installation was a semicircular Drive

932
00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:01,110
and a flagpole and the building was

933
00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:03,990
buried underground and made a sketch of

934
00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:06,900
that which we published and surely after

935
00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:09,540
that we got a unsolicited call from a

936
00:41:15,230 --> 00:41:12,270
policeman actually Police Commissioner

937
00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:15,240
city of Burbank named Pat Christ who had

938
00:41:20,180 --> 00:41:18,030
heard about our program he had heard

939
00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:20,190
about it through Scientology circles but

940
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:21,480
that's all right he had heard about our

941
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:23,970
program and said I think I can help you

942
00:41:28,090 --> 00:41:25,410
I've been doing this kind of stuff all

943
00:41:31,850 --> 00:41:28,100
my life and he'll who was on the phone

944
00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:31,860
invited price to describe what he saw I

945
00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:34,470
said okay I'm zooming in at 5,000 feet

946
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:37,500
and I see these buildings mainly they're

947
00:41:43,580 --> 00:41:40,530
underground and he described a large

948
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:43,590
concrete conference room with row filing

949
00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:47,010
cabinets and he read the code words on

950
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:48,630
the front of the filing cabinet

951
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,510
correctly we just understood this place

952
00:41:56,270 --> 00:41:54,240
is called whatever it was I can't

953
00:42:00,050 --> 00:41:56,280
remember now gave the name I was above

954
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:00,060
the place a fork a fork is what it was

955
00:42:05,630 --> 00:42:02,880
called and it turned out that this place

956
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,640
that they described was a national

957
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:08,240
security agent the NSA listening post

958
00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:11,400
crypto secret could not have been a more

959
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:13,950
secret location the

960
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:16,800
five names on the filing cabinet the

961
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:19,440
price described were correct code words

962
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:22,260
and INGOs drawing of the place was also

963
00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:23,010
correct

964
00:42:28,609 --> 00:42:25,470
so Pam price is the only person we've

965
00:42:31,460 --> 00:42:28,619
encountered who can reliably read things

966
00:42:34,190 --> 00:42:31,470
psychically there many people can draw a

967
00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:34,200
wonderful artistic rendition that what a

968
00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:36,329
place looks like architectural drawing

969
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:38,550
but price is the only one who could

970
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:41,700
replay quickly and he went on to do many

971
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:44,400
other experiments with us he's the one

972
00:42:50,329 --> 00:42:47,250
who I was one city in our electrically

973
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:50,339
shielded room with price and we're doing

974
00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:53,520
a formal series of trials that were

975
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:55,380
going to publish in the Proceedings the

976
00:43:00,730 --> 00:42:58,170
I Triple E if they went well and for

977
00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:00,740
several days price was able to describe

978
00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:04,500
where my colleague our contract monitor

979
00:43:10,099 --> 00:43:07,470
was hiding in the tempest Disko Bay Area

980
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:10,109
and one day we were sitting in our

981
00:43:15,319 --> 00:43:13,290
little copper covered phone booth in

982
00:43:17,540 --> 00:43:15,329
price did you know we don't really have

983
00:43:20,270 --> 00:43:17,550
to wait for them to get there why don't

984
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:20,280
I tell you right now where they're gonna

985
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:22,650
be and a half hour and then we can get

986
00:43:28,609 --> 00:43:26,280
some coffee so he described Carol on the

987
00:43:31,339 --> 00:43:28,619
contract monitor standing out up here

988
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:31,349
looking at the little tail boats with

989
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:33,690
their masks stepped in some of the sails

990
00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:36,810
up and a Chinese looking restaurant off

991
00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:38,460
to the side the seagull

992
00:43:42,740 --> 00:43:40,380
sitting on the pier and that's what I

993
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:42,750
get and they came back and that was

994
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:44,609
exactly where they were they went to a

995
00:43:48,980 --> 00:43:46,890
harbor in Redwood City they took

996
00:43:51,740 --> 00:43:48,990
pictures of the boats in the litter

997
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:51,750
knees restaurant and that was all done a

998
00:43:58,010 --> 00:43:55,380
half hour before they chose the site so

999
00:44:00,700 --> 00:43:58,020
we began to understand that it's no

1000
00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:00,710
harder to describe even in the future

1001
00:44:07,099 --> 00:44:03,630
that is the describe contemporaneous

1002
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:07,109
event and as modern physics has caught

1003
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:09,510
up with us we learn to call this

1004
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,720
non-local awareness it's nominal all of

1005
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:14,960
psychic ability is non-local awareness

1006
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:18,530
because the accuracy and reliability is

1007
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:21,690
independent of the distance and a time

1008
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:23,849
in the future so one of the things we

1009
00:44:27,650 --> 00:44:25,970
know that it's no harder to describe

1010
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:27,660
something that's good

1011
00:44:34,339 --> 00:44:29,970
happened tomorrow that it is for you to

1012
00:44:36,650 --> 00:44:34,349
describe the picture hidden in my study

1013
00:44:39,260 --> 00:44:36,660
of my death distance the timer is

1014
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:39,270
separable and I thought I of course knew

1015
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:42,089
that a hundred years ago but we were

1016
00:44:47,809 --> 00:44:44,609
just catching on to the fact that space

1017
00:44:49,940 --> 00:44:47,819
and time are no hindrance just like AK

1018
00:44:52,789 --> 00:44:49,950
abilities doctor tog want to ask you a

1019
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:52,799
few specifics about the mechanisms and

1020
00:44:58,250 --> 00:44:55,380
the results of remote viewing and I

1021
00:45:00,410 --> 00:44:58,260
still wonder today why they would not be

1022
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:00,420
using it so for example if we had remote

1023
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:03,450
viewing would we have known all that was

1024
00:45:08,059 --> 00:45:05,970
going to happen before 9/11 if we had

1025
00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:08,069
remote viewing would we have known how

1026
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:10,500
to prevent Benghazi from occurring if

1027
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:11,250
you get my point

1028
00:45:17,660 --> 00:45:15,510
well it's hard to do exactly that it's

1029
00:45:20,359 --> 00:45:17,670
hard to look into the future in general

1030
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:20,369
and say what's going to happen in the

1031
00:45:26,930 --> 00:45:24,960
future one of our we trained our six

1032
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:26,940
army officers at how to do remote

1033
00:45:32,510 --> 00:45:29,640
viewing and one of those is Paul Smith

1034
00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:32,520
in Austin Texas and Paul is now teaching

1035
00:45:39,789 --> 00:45:35,880
remote viewing very good teacher and he

1036
00:45:42,289 --> 00:45:39,799
was also a remote viewer and in the

1037
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:42,299
working arrangement of the facilities at

1038
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:44,010
Fort Meade where he was one of the

1039
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:46,710
officers here just done a remote viewing

1040
00:45:51,859 --> 00:45:50,130
and as they were winding down his

1041
00:45:54,260 --> 00:45:51,869
interviewer because this is usually a

1042
00:45:56,660 --> 00:45:54,270
two-person game somebody is a psychic if

1043
00:45:58,670 --> 00:45:56,670
somebody's asking him questions the

1044
00:46:01,400 --> 00:45:58,680
interviewer says okay there we've got

1045
00:46:04,579 --> 00:46:01,410
here we've got your drawing here that

1046
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:04,589
this is now Friday afternoon by the way

1047
00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:08,400
can you tell me anything exciting this

1048
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:10,020
could have happened over the weekend is

1049
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,200
there anything you see in your mental

1050
00:46:19,370 --> 00:46:16,319
screen that's really no word that's

1051
00:46:25,339 --> 00:46:19,380
going to happen is it over I posted oh

1052
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:25,349
my god I see a ship hit with a missile

1053
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:28,079
is a missile going right into the deck

1054
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:30,690
of a ship and a lot a lot of people are

1055
00:46:35,299 --> 00:46:33,210
killed m'as terrible accident and that

1056
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:35,309
was just before a Texas that missile

1057
00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:39,510
didn't American ship in the Arabian got

1058
00:46:44,740 --> 00:46:41,700
in the Gulf of Arabia

1059
00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:44,750
well so he he just opened his mind to

1060
00:46:50,030 --> 00:46:47,190
the next exciting thing that would

1061
00:46:52,579 --> 00:46:50,040
happen yeah so it is possible in in a

1062
00:46:56,299 --> 00:46:52,589
general sense to even get a a hit on

1063
00:46:58,039 --> 00:46:56,309
some sort of future event I I wasn't

1064
00:47:01,160 --> 00:46:58,049
aware that I thought it had to be more

1065
00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:01,170
specific information in order it would

1066
00:47:07,370 --> 00:47:03,420
be more specific this is the only I

1067
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,380
would never target somebody on what do

1068
00:47:11,630 --> 00:47:09,119
you see in the future that's interesting

1069
00:47:14,450 --> 00:47:11,640
that I would not be the kind of thing we

1070
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:14,460
would do I would say where we're gonna

1071
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:16,260
take you tomorrow what does that look

1072
00:47:21,220 --> 00:47:18,089
like when it hasn't been done yet or

1073
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:21,230
what the market gonna do tomorrow or

1074
00:47:27,620 --> 00:47:24,089
with a group of people in a workshop I

1075
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:27,630
may say I've got six shopping bags here

1076
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:30,150
each one has an object in it I don't

1077
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:32,970
know which one I gotta show you after

1078
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:35,849
you make your drawing of the object I'll

1079
00:47:41,569 --> 00:47:38,880
then toss to die and that will determine

1080
00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:41,579
what you see and that works just as well

1081
00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:44,700
as having one shopping bag and have them

1082
00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:47,099
describe what's in the bag so I am

1083
00:47:55,339 --> 00:47:51,720
confident that looking hours or days in

1084
00:47:56,809 --> 00:47:55,349
the future is no more distance per mode

1085
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:56,819
viewer than describing something

1086
00:48:02,569 --> 00:47:59,700
contemporaneous there's no separate as

1087
00:48:05,780 --> 00:48:02,579
though there's no separation in time or

1088
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:05,790
in space your year awareness just filled

1089
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:08,640
all of space-time and this will of

1090
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:12,000
course this is not new age this was all

1091
00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:14,970
spelled out in the eighth century by an

1092
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:17,369
Indian teacher Padma Sambhav ah who

1093
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:19,140
wrote a whole book on this subject I

1094
00:48:24,289 --> 00:48:21,960
just tell you the name of the book okay

1095
00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:24,299
Tom called self-liberation

1096
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:26,940
through seeing with naked awareness

1097
00:48:32,380 --> 00:48:29,250
sounds a lot like what we're talking

1098
00:48:35,390 --> 00:48:32,390
about yeah and Hardison bhava describes

1099
00:48:38,359 --> 00:48:35,400
that if you don't like the suffering

1100
00:48:40,549 --> 00:48:38,369
here experience defending your ego and

1101
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:40,559
defending the story of who you think you

1102
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:43,680
are you can move from this condition

1103
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:47,250
awareness to timeless awareness where

1104
00:48:51,740 --> 00:48:50,010
you see the world as it really is but in

1105
00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:51,750
order to do that you have to give up

1106
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:54,420
your desire to name the things you're

1107
00:48:57,950 --> 00:48:55,200
saying and

1108
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:57,960
grasp onto them and indeed in remote

1109
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:00,720
viewing it's very hard to name anything

1110
00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:03,510
if I tell people I have an object in the

1111
00:49:08,299 --> 00:49:05,880
box like they don't name it don't guess

1112
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:08,309
what it is just describe what you're

1113
00:49:12,859 --> 00:49:10,410
experiencing in terms of your experience

1114
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:12,869
and that was all understood in the 8th

1115
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:15,210
century and it spelled out of the

1116
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:17,910
meditation program that if you can move

1117
00:49:23,660 --> 00:49:20,450
your awareness into the spaciousness

1118
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:23,670
you'll have a more peaceful view of the

1119
00:49:28,010 --> 00:49:26,010
world a more peaceful life but obviously

1120
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:28,020
with remote viewing when the military

1121
00:49:32,420 --> 00:49:30,690
wanted were spies they wanted people who

1122
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:32,430
could see what's going on in another

1123
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:35,010
country and other city whatever and tell

1124
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:36,930
you about it without the consequences

1125
00:49:42,799 --> 00:49:40,079
and the accountability we could do that

1126
00:49:46,430 --> 00:49:42,809
sure Joe was successful and fine named

1127
00:49:49,069 --> 00:49:46,440
general Dozier was kidnapped in Italy he

1128
00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:49,079
was kidnapped in Venice and Jose did I

1129
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:51,660
see him now at a street a building a

1130
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:54,569
street corner he shackled to a bed and a

1131
00:50:00,170 --> 00:49:57,210
fountain behind the building in fact I

1132
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:00,180
recognize this place this is pod WA in

1133
00:50:05,569 --> 00:50:03,359
northern Italy and he could recognize

1134
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:05,579
the building just a couple of blocks

1135
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,530
from the waterfront because he happened

1136
00:50:12,410 --> 00:50:09,839
to know bad WA we have dr. Russell Tom

1137
00:50:17,170 --> 00:50:12,420
joining Jean and Chris you're in the

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[Music]

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1140
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:27,850
hello congratulations for what we're

1141
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:30,050
losing all that weight how do you do it

1142
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so fast a.s.a.p is it what what's that

1143
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mean are you ready to get as skinny as

1144
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possible as soon as possible as simple

1145
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as possible and as sexy as possible I'm

1146
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listening and get with the ASAP program

1147
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1149
00:50:51,490 --> 00:50:48,470
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1150
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1164
00:51:38,610 --> 00:51:34,270
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1165
00:51:46,450 --> 00:51:38,620
standard of paranormal radio and now

1166
00:51:48,490 --> 00:51:46,460
here's Jane Steinberg immersed in

1167
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,500
discussions about successes with remote

1168
00:51:53,290 --> 00:51:50,480
viewing with dr. Russell Targ his book

1169
00:51:55,810 --> 00:51:53,300
is the reality of ESP a physicist proof

1170
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:55,820
of psychic abilities before we get into

1171
00:52:00,130 --> 00:51:58,010
more case specific things and we got a

1172
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:00,140
lot of questions from our listeners dr.

1173
00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:01,610
tar quant to ask you more about the

1174
00:52:06,850 --> 00:52:04,190
mechanisms here so okay we can see the

1175
00:52:08,770 --> 00:52:06,860
future supposedly in this kind of

1176
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:08,780
practice we see things are going to

1177
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:11,650
happen so is the future therefore

1178
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:14,960
preordained or are there other kinds of

1179
00:52:19,690 --> 00:52:17,570
futures of their variations and I say

1180
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:19,700
that say you see an action that that's

1181
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:22,910
gonna happen five hours from now can you

1182
00:52:27,370 --> 00:52:25,010
prevent that accident from occurring or

1183
00:52:28,690 --> 00:52:27,380
will it happen anyway and there's no way

1184
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:28,700
to get around it

1185
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:30,950
well different people have different

1186
00:52:35,950 --> 00:52:33,710
opinions on that one case where somebody

1187
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:35,960
did prevent an accident is we had a

1188
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:38,330
contract monitor who had worked with us

1189
00:52:42,850 --> 00:52:40,730
for several years and he was in Detroit

1190
00:52:46,180 --> 00:52:42,860
doing something different with his

1191
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:46,190
partner and he had a horrifying dream he

1192
00:52:51,310 --> 00:52:48,050
dreamt that he was in an airplane crash

1193
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,320
a big ball of fire and he was burned to

1194
00:52:56,650 --> 00:52:53,680
death scared the hell out of it next day

1195
00:52:59,320 --> 00:52:56,660
he told his partner you know something's

1196
00:53:02,140 --> 00:52:59,330
come up I don't think I can go with you

1197
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,150
on the next leg of our trip I have to do

1198
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:04,160
something further here but I'll Drive

1199
00:53:08,530 --> 00:53:06,050
you to the airport because even in the

1200
00:53:11,230 --> 00:53:08,540
CIA people don't want to appear to be

1201
00:53:14,650 --> 00:53:11,240
assisting to cancel a trip based on a

1202
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:14,660
scary dream we just did I'll see you

1203
00:53:17,710 --> 00:53:14,960
later

1204
00:53:20,350 --> 00:53:17,720
he drove him to the airport and that he

1205
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:20,360
was driving away from the airport he saw

1206
00:53:25,930 --> 00:53:22,450
the plane crash at the end of the runway

1207
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:25,940
killing everybody but a little child and

1208
00:53:31,780 --> 00:53:28,090
I happen to know a lot about this crash

1209
00:53:34,540 --> 00:53:31,790
because in my next incarnation I was

1210
00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:34,550
working on airplane safety and I know

1211
00:53:40,330 --> 00:53:37,150
exactly why this plane crashed there a

1212
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,340
number of unfortunate things that all

1213
00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:43,040
piled up a hot day short runway lots of

1214
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:43,670
people

1215
00:53:49,090 --> 00:53:46,010
the pilot making a date with a

1216
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,100
stewardess forgot to set the flaps so he

1217
00:53:53,950 --> 00:53:51,760
took off under difficult conditions and

1218
00:53:56,410 --> 00:53:53,960
windshear brought down the airplane

1219
00:53:59,350 --> 00:53:56,420
telling everybody it was like this plane

1220
00:54:02,500 --> 00:53:59,360
was karmically destined to crash there

1221
00:54:04,540 --> 00:54:02,510
like five different arrows all pushing

1222
00:54:06,940 --> 00:54:04,550
in the directions their plane crashing

1223
00:54:10,210 --> 00:54:06,950
and my contract monitor had a dream

1224
00:54:12,220 --> 00:54:10,220
about not getting on the airplane so

1225
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:12,230
basically then if the pilot had this

1226
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:15,110
dream and he saw it was going to happen

1227
00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:16,970
could he have stopped it could he have

1228
00:54:21,820 --> 00:54:18,790
said you know I'm not gonna fly today I

1229
00:54:23,470 --> 00:54:21,830
really feel I'm compromised or I have

1230
00:54:25,810 --> 00:54:23,480
something better to do or I woke up with

1231
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:25,820
the flu I think he could have done that

1232
00:54:30,460 --> 00:54:27,890
we don't know whether you see the

1233
00:54:34,050 --> 00:54:30,470
probable future or the actual future

1234
00:54:37,060 --> 00:54:34,060
today is a ha stopping and ESP research

1235
00:54:39,490 --> 00:54:37,070
people have done experiments and gotten

1236
00:54:41,140 --> 00:54:39,500
different answers this is a case where

1237
00:54:44,140 --> 00:54:41,150
somebody dreamt about dying in a plane

1238
00:54:46,750 --> 00:54:44,150
crash change his action and didn't die

1239
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:46,760
so there was an important event because

1240
00:54:52,060 --> 00:54:49,310
we know a lot about what happened

1241
00:54:55,210 --> 00:54:52,070
does canceling your fly I mean he's a

1242
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:55,220
working state CIA age and it actually

1243
00:55:00,490 --> 00:54:57,200
canceled his flight this time different

1244
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:00,500
so he he'd seen a lot of striking stuff

1245
00:55:07,180 --> 00:55:03,650
in our lab so he was motivated to

1246
00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:07,190
actually go out on a limb and not get on

1247
00:55:14,050 --> 00:55:10,310
that airplane now what I believe is that

1248
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:14,060
what he dreamt about was the fireball

1249
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:16,970
the crashing airplane and then bama ties

1250
00:55:21,550 --> 00:55:19,850
that by putting himself in it so he did

1251
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:21,560
not have to die in the plane crash

1252
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:24,710
to dream about the plane crash now I've

1253
00:55:31,090 --> 00:55:27,920
done experiments where somebody has to

1254
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:31,100
describe the object I will show him in a

1255
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,880
group of six possible objects one of

1256
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:37,520
which turns out to be very likely to be

1257
00:55:42,850 --> 00:55:39,920
shown and there are five others which

1258
00:55:45,730 --> 00:55:42,860
are much less likely and what I wanted

1259
00:55:48,750 --> 00:55:45,740
to know is will the presence of a very

1260
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:48,760
likely object prevent you from seeing

1261
00:55:54,430 --> 00:55:51,770
the less likely one where the left

1262
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:54,440
likely want to chose that and the answer

1263
00:55:59,059 --> 00:55:56,130
is No

1264
00:56:01,549 --> 00:55:59,069
so that what that means is that if

1265
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:01,559
everyone knows the market is going to

1266
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:04,650
crash tomorrow although all the finance

1267
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,329
dears know that it's going to crash

1268
00:56:12,620 --> 00:56:08,640
they're gonna get out today and crash it

1269
00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:12,630
early that's right so that's the likely

1270
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:14,339
thing that's going to happen but that

1271
00:56:20,779 --> 00:56:17,249
may not actually happen some other thing

1272
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:20,789
may happen overnight in China causing

1273
00:56:25,219 --> 00:56:23,249
the market to go up so the fact that

1274
00:56:27,739 --> 00:56:25,229
everyone believes that it's going to go

1275
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:27,749
down does not interfere with your

1276
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:29,910
predicting that it's going to go up if

1277
00:56:33,739 --> 00:56:31,170
that's what really happened

1278
00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:33,749
so the short answer you see the actual

1279
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:36,329
future or not the probable future fair

1280
00:56:40,670 --> 00:56:37,049
enough okay

1281
00:56:43,339 --> 00:56:40,680
the mechanism here what is causing this

1282
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:43,349
ability to exist in the first place we

1283
00:56:49,729 --> 00:56:46,319
apart for example to suggest something

1284
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:49,739
of a universal consciousness that there

1285
00:56:52,999 --> 00:56:51,569
is a universal awareness you can call it

1286
00:56:55,819 --> 00:56:53,009
God or anything you want or a

1287
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,829
computerized simulation doesn't matter

1288
00:57:00,289 --> 00:56:57,359
we don't even know right now

1289
00:57:02,779 --> 00:57:00,299
and maybe we can't know but is there

1290
00:57:05,859 --> 00:57:02,789
that source of information available

1291
00:57:09,049 --> 00:57:05,869
everyone like a universal consciousness

1292
00:57:11,209 --> 00:57:09,059
the short answer is you know information

1293
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:11,219
is available to everyone as though at

1294
00:57:16,609 --> 00:57:13,890
the universal consciousness a better

1295
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:16,619
explanation is that it's as though we're

1296
00:57:21,049 --> 00:57:19,410
part of a hologram in which everything

1297
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:21,059
is connected to everything else

1298
00:57:26,499 --> 00:57:23,670
the Buddhists back to the time of Christ

1299
00:57:29,959 --> 00:57:26,509
that the separation is an illusion that

1300
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:29,969
you have super knowledge available you

1301
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:31,680
can see into the distance gene of the

1302
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:34,799
future diagnose the illness here with

1303
00:57:40,459 --> 00:57:37,920
thick variety rather they talk to

1304
00:57:44,989 --> 00:57:40,469
deceased people that information is all

1305
00:57:47,059 --> 00:57:44,999
available and the modern physics would

1306
00:57:50,209 --> 00:57:47,069
say that we live in a non-local

1307
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:50,219
space-time now the idea of nonlocality

1308
00:57:55,150 --> 00:57:54,209
is a product of the space and time in

1309
00:57:58,699 --> 00:57:55,160
which we live

1310
00:58:02,209 --> 00:57:58,709
one example is getting a lot of press

1311
00:58:05,329 --> 00:58:02,219
lately is entangled particle where two

1312
00:58:06,979 --> 00:58:05,339
photons are born together go off in

1313
00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:06,989
opposite directions as the speed of

1314
00:58:09,940 --> 00:58:09,390
light and you can grab the one on the

1315
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:09,950
left

1316
00:58:15,099 --> 00:58:12,910
that affects the one on the right and

1317
00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:15,109
special relativity visit that's

1318
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:19,369
impossible I'm famously said that won't

1319
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:21,710
work that the spooky connection at a

1320
00:58:28,329 --> 00:58:25,010
distance and then a 1970 was shown to

1321
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:28,339
work so the idea of entangled particle

1322
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:31,810
is now established nobody doubt that and

1323
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:35,359
that the manifestation of the fact we

1324
00:58:39,970 --> 00:58:38,810
live in a non-local space-time and what

1325
00:58:43,180 --> 00:58:39,980
the Buddhists would say is that

1326
00:58:45,730 --> 00:58:43,190
consciousness is entangled just as the

1327
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:45,740
photons are because of the nature of the

1328
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:49,040
space and time we live we live in so

1329
00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:51,890
although you and I are separated by a

1330
00:58:57,089 --> 00:58:54,460
thousand miles what they our

1331
00:59:00,700 --> 00:58:57,099
consciousness is not separated at all

1332
00:59:03,609 --> 00:59:00,710
there's a path through the complex

1333
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:03,619
space-time that we live in if I have to

1334
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,359
if I have to take the train it's going

1335
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:08,000
to be a thousand mile but because we

1336
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:10,510
live in a complex space-time

1337
00:59:17,380 --> 00:59:13,040
mathematically complex there will always

1338
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:17,390
be a path off of the material plane and

1339
00:59:23,319 --> 00:59:20,480
that total path is there zero I can

1340
00:59:26,140 --> 00:59:23,329
always find a path of zero distance

1341
00:59:29,530 --> 00:59:26,150
between you and me or between me in the

1342
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:29,540
future so it's as though we live in an

1343
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:32,210
interconnected world and again the

1344
00:59:37,930 --> 00:59:34,160
Buddhists described this at the time of

1345
00:59:41,380 --> 00:59:37,940
Christ as the net of Indra the Hinderer

1346
00:59:44,260 --> 00:59:41,390
was one of the Hindu deities who threw a

1347
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:44,270
net over the whole universe as each

1348
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:45,890
intersection in the net there was a

1349
00:59:52,540 --> 00:59:49,250
reflecting stone the reflected each of

1350
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:52,550
the other jewels so the model is you

1351
00:59:56,890 --> 00:59:54,290
could look at it this is a Buddhist

1352
01:00:00,550 --> 00:59:56,900
model from 2,000 years ago it sounds

1353
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:00,560
like that was exactly like a hologram

1354
01:00:06,730 --> 01:00:03,890
but you could look in any jewel at the

1355
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:06,740
intersection of the net and see any

1356
01:00:10,839 --> 01:00:08,930
other jewel in the nest covering the

1357
01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:10,849
whole universe and that's the

1358
01:00:17,010 --> 01:00:13,310
description of the experience of a

1359
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:17,020
psychic person so for 2,000 years

1360
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:18,890
principally Buddhists have been

1361
01:00:23,810 --> 01:00:21,890
describing the kind of things that you

1362
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:23,820
can see if you quiet your mind

1363
01:00:30,590 --> 01:00:27,930
and the model that preferred is not

1364
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:30,600
seeing into the distance but the model

1365
01:00:36,460 --> 01:00:32,910
that for consciousness there is no

1366
01:00:38,450 --> 01:00:36,470
separation yeah this this gets into some

1367
01:00:42,260 --> 01:00:38,460
some very good philosophical

1368
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:42,270
metaphysical areas that the data yeah

1369
01:00:46,820 --> 01:00:44,370
well the data suggests something that's

1370
01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:46,830
that's uh that's supported by quantum

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01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:48,780
physics and I you know I've always

1372
01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:51,720
wondered why mainstream science has such

1373
01:00:58,070 --> 01:00:55,070
a hard time reconciling this why why

1374
01:01:00,200 --> 01:00:58,080
skeptics say there is no proof at all of

1375
01:01:02,450 --> 01:01:00,210
psychic abilities that that's balderdash

1376
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:02,460
and this sort of thing and reading your

1377
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:04,710
book there is example after example

1378
01:01:10,970 --> 01:01:07,770
after example of cases where this has

1379
01:01:13,070 --> 01:01:10,980
been proven to be real and rep you can

1380
01:01:14,990 --> 01:01:13,080
replicate it we have to be replicated

1381
01:01:17,090 --> 01:01:15,000
right now we're talking to dr. Russell

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01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:17,100
Targ with gene and Chris you're in the

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para cast attack of the rock odes has

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woman pleading for his help after a

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terrible battle in outer space but the

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dreams turn out to be true and thrust

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him into a telepathic love affair with a

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woman whose faraway planet is intent on

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destroying the earth and now the

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para cast com replicating ourselves at a

1486
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:49,010
record pace here we have dr. Russell

1487
01:05:53,140 --> 01:05:50,810
Targ joining Gina and Chris and the para

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01:05:54,910 --> 01:05:53,150
cast really glad to have him aboard so

1489
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many thousands of questions and Chris

1490
01:06:00,580 --> 01:05:57,340
was entering into the philosophical

1491
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:00,590
aspects well I'm just wondering why why

1492
01:06:05,470 --> 01:06:03,440
it's such a tough sell to mainstream

1493
01:06:07,450 --> 01:06:05,480
academia and mainstream science Oh at

1494
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:07,460
least it has been up until this point I

1495
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:09,680
think your book is is the ultimate tool

1496
01:06:17,260 --> 01:06:13,910
for someone to show a skeptic that their

1497
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:17,270
skeptical view is is not correct that

1498
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,960
these abilities are real and you can

1499
01:06:25,150 --> 01:06:22,880
prove it your my idea in writing this

1500
01:06:28,300 --> 01:06:25,160
book is it something you could give to a

1501
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:28,310
skeptic and say here's the data the

1502
01:06:33,580 --> 01:06:30,710
evidence for psychic ability especially

1503
01:06:36,550 --> 01:06:33,590
as we did it at Stanford our evidence is

1504
01:06:42,730 --> 01:06:36,560
ten times greater than the evidence that

1505
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:42,740
aspirin prevent heart attacks and IH

1506
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:46,070
stopped the experiment to see whether

1507
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:48,770
you should give then aspirin to prevent

1508
01:06:53,710 --> 01:06:51,410
heart attack they stopped it because the

1509
01:06:55,690 --> 01:06:53,720
proof was so overwhelming that aspirin

1510
01:06:59,440 --> 01:06:55,700
is good for you there would be unethical

1511
01:07:02,890 --> 01:06:59,450
to withhold the medicine our data is ten

1512
01:07:05,620 --> 01:07:02,900
times stronger than the NIH data well in

1513
01:07:08,770 --> 01:07:05,630
if you read the book listeners you you

1514
01:07:11,410 --> 01:07:08,780
will see that this is how science is

1515
01:07:13,540 --> 01:07:11,420
done I mean the replication of some of

1516
01:07:16,330 --> 01:07:13,550
these experiments is is jaw-dropping and

1517
01:07:19,780 --> 01:07:16,340
we're talking about odds of billions

1518
01:07:21,940 --> 01:07:19,790
billions to one I think in one example

1519
01:07:23,650 --> 01:07:21,950
you said it's like throwing for one

1520
01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:23,660
particular experiment it's like having a

1521
01:07:27,610 --> 01:07:25,790
handful of seventy pennies join him

1522
01:07:30,490 --> 01:07:27,620
throwing them up in the air and what are

1523
01:07:32,650 --> 01:07:30,500
the odds at the all land heads that's

1524
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:32,660
that's the kind of statistical data that

1525
01:07:38,380 --> 01:07:35,510
you've been you bet the data from the

1526
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:38,390
Princeton experiment Robert John who

1527
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:40,970
Dean of engineering at Princeton did

1528
01:07:47,170 --> 01:07:43,609
more than 400 remote viewing experiments

1529
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:47,180
and found that they work remarkably well

1530
01:07:52,269 --> 01:07:49,369
and he's the one who showed that it's no

1531
01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:52,279
harder to look hours days or weeks into

1532
01:07:57,579 --> 01:07:54,950
the future that is to describe where the

1533
01:08:00,009 --> 01:07:57,589
person is hiding on campus there showed

1534
01:08:02,289 --> 01:08:00,019
the time going into the future makes

1535
01:08:04,690 --> 01:08:02,299
absolutely no difference in the accuracy

1536
01:08:07,210 --> 01:08:04,700
or reliability whether or not you

1537
01:08:10,450 --> 01:08:07,220
believed that kind of thing that's what

1538
01:08:12,670 --> 01:08:10,460
the data shows very strongly well how

1539
01:08:16,809 --> 01:08:12,680
come someone like a Sylvia Browne and

1540
01:08:19,180 --> 01:08:16,819
some of these newspaper astrologists are

1541
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:19,190
wrong so many times they maybe they

1542
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:21,290
should take one of when it one of your

1543
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:24,290
classes get a little better handle on

1544
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:26,239
their talents or lack of talent

1545
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:28,370
well the street-corner spike has a

1546
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:30,409
harder time than we have because they're

1547
01:08:35,410 --> 01:08:32,719
trying to name things we're trying to

1548
01:08:37,870 --> 01:08:35,420
say exactly when you're gonna find your

1549
01:08:40,749 --> 01:08:37,880
boyfriend what he looks like there are a

1550
01:08:43,870 --> 01:08:40,759
number of the in general the the Sylvia

1551
01:08:46,539 --> 01:08:43,880
Browne kind of person knows too much

1552
01:08:50,349 --> 01:08:46,549
about the situation to start with so to

1553
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:50,359
invite them to engage in guessing and

1554
01:08:56,349 --> 01:08:53,839
trying to name things in a way you said

1555
01:08:58,209 --> 01:08:56,359
why don't people accept psychic ability

1556
01:09:01,329 --> 01:08:58,219
that's like Gresham's law and finance

1557
01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:01,339
that the counterfeit money drives out

1558
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:04,310
good money once counterfeit money begins

1559
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:07,250
to appear everybody gets rid of their

1560
01:09:14,590 --> 01:09:11,210
cash goes into gold right and in psychic

1561
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:14,600
research is distill via Browns and the

1562
01:09:21,010 --> 01:09:16,880
fortune-telling columns the newspaper

1563
01:09:23,070 --> 01:09:21,020
ah the discredit us is Madame Catherine

1564
01:09:26,649 --> 01:09:23,080
on the corner who will read your palm

1565
01:09:29,260 --> 01:09:26,659
who makes ridiculous to work across the

1566
01:09:31,660 --> 01:09:29,270
street of death we had that that is

1567
01:09:34,959 --> 01:09:31,670
Madame Catherine the palm reader was

1568
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:34,969
right across el camino al from stanford

1569
01:09:37,870 --> 01:09:37,040
research institute where we had near p

1570
01:09:40,450 --> 01:09:37,880
program

1571
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:40,460
madam counselor was a bigger problem for

1572
01:09:45,010 --> 01:09:43,279
us than all the skeptics yeah it only

1573
01:09:49,149 --> 01:09:45,020
takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch

1574
01:09:51,550 --> 01:09:49,159
as they say very strong now and people

1575
01:09:52,230 --> 01:09:51,560
are replicating our work all over the

1576
01:09:55,020 --> 01:09:52,240
world

1577
01:09:56,610 --> 01:09:55,030
William you mentioned a very interesting

1578
01:10:00,720 --> 01:09:56,620
experiment that she did when you started

1579
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:00,730
started a a company where you actually

1580
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:03,040
looked at these Silver's futures market

1581
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:06,880
and and prognosticated the rise and fall

1582
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:08,560
of silver prices and actually I think

1583
01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:10,000
the figure was you made one hundred and

1584
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:11,320
twenty thousand dollars for the company

1585
01:10:15,450 --> 01:10:13,090
is that correct once you give us a

1586
01:10:18,060 --> 01:10:15,460
little background on that yeah there was

1587
01:10:21,390 --> 01:10:18,070
a lot of money in 1982 and we did well

1588
01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:21,400
say we were forecasting whether silver

1589
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:24,190
futures would go up or down and we made

1590
01:10:28,590 --> 01:10:26,290
a forecast every week as to whether that

1591
01:10:30,750 --> 01:10:28,600
would happen toward the end of the year

1592
01:10:34,850 --> 01:10:30,760
we started we would forecast December

1593
01:10:38,490 --> 01:10:34,860
silver nine times in a row we've decided

1594
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:38,500
from our experience that 9x9 trials of

1595
01:10:44,670 --> 01:10:40,930
anything is about the most you want to

1596
01:10:48,060 --> 01:10:44,680
do before your viewer gets bored in the

1597
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:48,070
experimenters get bored right now it

1598
01:10:53,340 --> 01:10:49,840
would be nice if we could just look up

1599
01:10:56,130 --> 01:10:53,350
psychically and read the number on the

1600
01:10:59,190 --> 01:10:56,140
big board the commodity change a week in

1601
01:11:01,620 --> 01:10:59,200
the future hey Joe here we are now on

1602
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:01,630
Monday can you tell me what Silver's

1603
01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:04,510
gonna trade for on Friday there would be

1604
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:07,960
nice but Joe can't do that what Joe can

1605
01:11:14,460 --> 01:11:12,070
do is I can say I'm gonna put something

1606
01:11:17,790 --> 01:11:14,470
in your hand on Friday of an interesting

1607
01:11:19,950 --> 01:11:17,800
object I don't know it is but our broker

1608
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:19,960
will give you an interesting object on

1609
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:23,410
Friday can you describe that object and

1610
01:11:29,070 --> 01:11:26,650
he can do that very very well and what

1611
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:29,080
the broker would have on his desk down

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on Montgomery Street is he would have

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four objects associated with poor

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possible market condition the market

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could go up a little up a lot down a

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little or down a lot the four states and

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he might have four different objects

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associated each week with those market

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conditions so I'll stay with Joe as they

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here we are on Monday morning on Friday

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afternoon I'm gonna put something in

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your hand can you describe what I'm

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gonna put in your hand and he'll say

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well I see something it's round

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and it's kind of floppy it's got a funny

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smell actually this thing is kind of

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disgusting I got this round floppy weird

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object and from my point of view that

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that excellent description because it's

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all about his feeling and his experience

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of the object he doesn't try and name it

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he just tells me what he's experiencing

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so I'll call up John the broker say okay

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I have a pretty good description what

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are your object

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he says if the market goes up a lot this

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week I'll show you a champagne bottle if

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it goes up a little I'll show you a

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Dixie cup if it goes down a little I'll

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show you a book if it goes down a lot

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I'll show you my leftover pancake from

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breakfast and I would say to him it

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looks like we have a very good

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description of your leftover pancake and

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based on that we would put $30,000 into

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the market selling silver short no

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fundamentals no prediction if Jo saw the

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pancake we would sell silver and that's

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we did nine weeks in a row correctly Wow

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Shawn David Morton probably should have

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taken your class instead of losing six

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million dollars on his psychic

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predictions yeah I was surprised to hear

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that he did not get out of the market

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because many psychic didn't get out of

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law a lot of people got out of the

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market yeah but his psychic abilities do

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not exist so let's leave in fact I think

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one of the things I'm asking here is

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that it doesn't look like it's a direct

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piece of information you have to kind of

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say well look at the consequences of the

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event as opposed to the event itself to

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get a picture of what's going on correct

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me if I'm wrong we have dr. Russell Targ

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psychic abilities of which I have none

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are tuned in to the para cast let me

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tell you what you're gonna hear stuff

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here that you probably won't hear

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anywhere else hear that George snoring

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with Jeana and Chris and the power

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castes a little bit later we'll be

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asking your questions or many we have

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dr. Russell Targ joining us we're

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talking about psychic abilities and

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you've got the sense of my question here

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dr. targeted when you describe the

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results it's not like tell me whether

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silver is gonna go up and down it's like

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talking up the consequences of any event

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well with silver that's a numerical

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thing and we know that you can't read

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numbers or letters off the board you can

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describe specific things well like the

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thing that's the most easy to do is I'm

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sitting in a lab with a psychic and I

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say can you describe what it looks like

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where we're going to take you two hours

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even though that place does not get

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chosen and she will say I see something

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like a manicured garden I see little

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Crees and pathways going through these

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well manicured trees that's a ten

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o'clock

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the guy with the computer is still

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parked in the parking lot in the

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basement of s RI he hasn't moved yet

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he's gonna wait till 11 o'clock then our

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hit is random number generator which

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will send him to one of sixty possible

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places he will look at that for a half

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hour and then at noon we will all go to

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his place so that when my viewer is

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describing the manicured garden that

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manicured garden has not yet been chosen

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but then at noon I feel like I'm caught

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in the matrix because I'm playing her

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tape recording talking about the

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manicured garden and there we are behind

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Stanford Hospital walking through a

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manicured garden and hellas saying I see

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trees that are trimmed very beautifully

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and their paths walking among them and

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or walk in the path so if you ask the

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right kind of question then your psychic

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can give you a very detailed appropriate

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answer it doesn't have to be admitted it

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doesn't have to be a metaphysical or a

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conditional answer if you ask a good

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question the viewer love for example one

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of the questions we had is a Russian

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bomber has crashed somewhere in North

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Africa are there code books are maybe an

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atomic bomb we would like it before to

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fight it before the Russians where is it

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and Joe mcmoneagle was able to sit down

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with a map of North Africa quiet his

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mind visualized a river Paulo the river

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and that will their mountains to the

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east into the village to the west and I

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see the plane between the village and

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the river put a circle of a map CIA

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display in there I got the Interpol

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dispatched a ground crew and they found

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the airplane before the Russians that's

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the best part we paid the rent for a

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decade speaking of paying the rent here

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is it possible to do the following I'm

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going to Las Vegas

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tomorrow I'm going to the sands I'm

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going to go to the gambling tables I'm

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going to play blackjack can I see what's

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going to happen so that way

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yeahyou 10,000 cars I have to invest I

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can tell you how to do that sure that's

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my favorite happens to be my favorite

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game at Las Vegas all I can tell you how

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to win and they might throw you out

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after a while because they won't like

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what you're doing but you can move to

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another table well I love it this way if

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I leave with a couple hundred thousand

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dollars from my day's work I don't think

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I'd mind way thrown out well the way

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this works assuming you're a moderately

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skillful blackjack player if you're

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you will slowly lose all your money but

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you can play for quite a while because

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it's almost a fair game now as the

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entire table you're looking for is a

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table that will let you pick play

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anything between $10 $100 and there are

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many tables like that that you can vary

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your best so you're sitting there

1879
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they're about to deal your cards and the

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first thing you have to do is put down

1881
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some chips in those cases where you feel

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optimistic you just have a good feeling

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and it has to be a happy experience

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you've got a lot of money if you don't

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have that happy experience you bet a

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small amount of money and then you play

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your ordinary hand and what you find is

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that in the times when you get blackjack

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you know that you're gonna have a happy

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feeling a minute in the future and what

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01:23:21,230 --> 01:23:18,420
you can do is modulate the amount of

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money you best in accordance with how

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you're going to feel at a later time and

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this strategy has no downside at all and

1895
01:23:34,250 --> 01:23:31,110
that's because let's say you had no ESP

1896
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whatsoever then you would be randomly

1897
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modulating your bet some days you've bet

1898
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$10 some moments you would bet $10 other

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01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:42,450
moments you've bet $100 if you have no

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01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:44,880
ESP that would just be a random factor

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01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:47,970
on the other hand if you won on the x

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01:23:53,180 --> 01:23:50,610
view about $100 and you lost those times

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01:23:57,470 --> 01:23:53,190
for you bet $10 then you make a lot of

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01:23:59,720 --> 01:23:57,480
money quickly now the dealer is going to

1905
01:24:01,730 --> 01:23:59,730
get suspicious and say what what are you

1906
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:01,740
doing there what why are you changing

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01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:04,050
your bet and you just have to tell them

1908
01:24:06,290 --> 01:24:04,409
most

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01:24:08,989 --> 01:24:06,300
sometimes I feel like I win sometimes I

1910
01:24:09,770 --> 01:24:08,999
think I feel like I'm lose and that's

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01:24:12,169 --> 01:24:09,780
what I'm doing

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01:24:15,799 --> 01:24:12,179
and what happens is this works quite

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01:24:18,589 --> 01:24:15,809
well and other people will begin to

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01:24:20,659 --> 01:24:18,599
cover you there's people around you will

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01:24:23,029 --> 01:24:20,669
say yeah I think you're gonna win and

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01:24:25,459 --> 01:24:23,039
we'll cover your best with this strategy

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01:24:28,819 --> 01:24:25,469
you're gonna draw a crowd and you can it

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01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:28,829
works very well in blackjack I've used

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01:24:35,629 --> 01:24:32,369
this in hang craps as well just stand by

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01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:35,639
all the come line in when I feel a

1921
01:24:40,699 --> 01:24:37,650
person is gonna win I'll just drop all

1922
01:24:42,379 --> 01:24:40,709
my chips on the wind line and frequently

1923
01:24:44,959 --> 01:24:42,389
more frequently than not they'll

1924
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:44,969
actually win on that moment so I can see

1925
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:46,409
you're rolling in dollars now that

1926
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:47,489
you're almost as rich as Bill Gates

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right that's right seriously speaking

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here okay

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if this chemistry Vegas they take this

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01:24:58,909 --> 01:24:56,280
to the homework assignment if you're

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01:25:01,549 --> 01:24:58,919
going to Las Vegas then actually try

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01:25:03,259 --> 01:25:01,559
this you can report back on this

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01:25:06,589 --> 01:25:03,269
precognitive gambling

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01:25:08,989 --> 01:25:06,599
you simply bet more on the hands where

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01:25:11,870 --> 01:25:08,999
you think you're gonna win in those

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01:25:13,629 --> 01:25:11,880
simple strategy yeah when you go on to

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01:25:19,219 --> 01:25:13,639
Vegas next Russell I'd love to tag along

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01:25:20,750 --> 01:25:19,229
about for a while well let's let's

1939
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:20,760
change gears a little bit I've got some

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01:25:24,589 --> 01:25:22,050
interest a bunch of interesting

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01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:24,599
questions from the listeners at forum

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01:25:28,939 --> 01:25:27,209
dr. Peric ascom and there's a

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01:25:30,859 --> 01:25:28,949
interesting question from Jeff Davis

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01:25:33,469 --> 01:25:30,869
who's one of our more recent additions

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01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:33,479
to our forum family and he said dr. Targ

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01:25:40,549 --> 01:25:38,729
a case in point April 27 1973 Ingo Swann

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01:25:43,339 --> 01:25:40,559
remote views a planet Jupiter

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01:25:45,020 --> 01:25:43,349
ten years later via heart and verified

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01:25:47,569 --> 01:25:45,030
scientific evidence garnered by

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mechanical space probes we find out that

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01:25:51,379 --> 01:25:49,860
not only was mr. Swann there but the

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accuracy of his measurements in

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01:25:56,179 --> 01:25:53,760
geological and more remote reporting

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01:25:58,040 --> 01:25:56,189
were spot-on and hypothetically

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01:25:59,479 --> 01:25:58,050
surpassed the accessible details made

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available via the space probes

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01:26:06,979 --> 01:26:04,169
themselves yeah why don't you talk to us

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01:26:10,729 --> 01:26:06,989
a little bit about that and uh and also

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some of the other off planet remote

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viewing attempts that were made by

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biingo and others well that's one

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example as we started out f king go to

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this

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the object in the box the object in the

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next room and he said that the true

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realization my ability I could focus my

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attention anywhere in the universe

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why would if I want to look in the next

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01:26:33,919 --> 01:26:30,719
room I'll open the door

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01:26:37,689 --> 01:26:33,929
and in this case NASA had just started

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supporting our work and they proposed

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we're sending the Pioneer spacecraft to

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Jupiter can you describe what we'll find

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01:26:50,689 --> 01:26:46,940
an Ingo sat down with help put off and

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01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:50,699
in the course of his meditation he said

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as I'm coming into our Jupiter I see a

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ring of ice crystals shining the Sun

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01:27:02,000 --> 01:26:59,400
it's very beautiful about 50,000 miles

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01:27:04,759 --> 01:27:02,010
out from the surface of the planet I see

1980
01:27:09,589 --> 01:27:04,769
this big ring of crystals now it's much

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01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:09,599
thinner than the crystal than the dust

1982
01:27:17,209 --> 01:27:14,130
around Saturn but it's several rings of

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crystals shining beautifully in the Sun

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and he drew all that I in my new book of

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the reality VSP I show his drawings and

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01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:27,360
the complete narrative so he was able to

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move millions of miles I don't know how

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far Jupiter Jupiter might be a billion

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miles away and he would and he described

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that in Z from the physicists point of

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01:27:47,779 --> 01:27:44,070
view he described it in real time on

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Jupiter that is to say our it would

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Jupiter is like 40 mil 40 light minutes

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away

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he wasn't describing what it looks like

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in 40 minutes of looking and what it

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looks like right now and right now we

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have to do this break we have dr.

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Russell Targ joining gene and Chris

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you're in the para cast

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author of the reality of ESP you're on

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with gene and Chris and we've been

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starting to pepper

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dr. Tarek with questions from our

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listeners you want to follow up further

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on the question dr. target before we go

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to the next one

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well the viewing of the brain around

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Jupiter is very exciting because no one

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knew about that and it took several

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years for us to get feedback and price

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made it drawing and in in my book is

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reality SPI sharp prices drawings

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together with the NASA photograph and so

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on will have the dimensions right it has

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01:33:16,330 --> 01:33:14,600
a whole story correct before anybody in

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01:33:18,610 --> 01:33:16,340
the universe do about that except for

2105
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:18,620
the people living on Jupiter because

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01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:21,110
it's not observable from Earth yeah we

2107
01:33:25,870 --> 01:33:23,090
didn't know that Jupiter had rings until

2108
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this the the the space probe got their

2109
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pioneer gods right and some of those

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01:33:33,250 --> 01:33:31,340
dramatic pictures I remember a lot of

2111
01:33:36,670 --> 01:33:33,260
scientists was surprised that Jupiter

2112
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:36,680
had a ring and and Ingo figured it out a

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01:33:42,970 --> 01:33:39,770
number of years before Eagle Eagle on

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psychic ability got their first now I do

2115
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:45,080
recall reading somewhere that he also

2116
01:33:49,300 --> 01:33:47,330
found structures or remote viewed

2117
01:33:52,420 --> 01:33:49,310
structures on the backside of the moon

2118
01:33:55,420 --> 01:33:52,430
or the and other things you want to

2119
01:33:57,850 --> 01:33:55,430
describe some of the more controversial

2120
01:34:00,010 --> 01:33:57,860
things that he's he's supposedly picked

2121
01:34:02,530 --> 01:34:00,020
up on out there in space well Engel

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wrote a book called penetrations where

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they're very exciting book where he was

2124
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working with the CIA and saw UFO take

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01:34:15,940 --> 01:34:13,370
off and followed it and described many

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01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:15,950
structures on the other side of the Moon

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01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:19,130
where there's a large UFO camp built

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01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:22,130
oh of course none of that has been

2129
01:34:27,790 --> 01:34:25,970
verified so I as a scientist like if

2130
01:34:30,850 --> 01:34:27,800
they roll with a gripping story is

2131
01:34:32,470 --> 01:34:30,860
penetration story but it has not been

2132
01:34:36,610 --> 01:34:32,480
verified nobody's ever said that's

2133
01:34:38,379 --> 01:34:36,620
correct and Ingo is also a skillful

2134
01:34:41,859 --> 01:34:38,389
science fiction writer

2135
01:34:44,109 --> 01:34:41,869
so I have no opinion on whether and out

2136
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:44,119
there structures on Mars we're gonna

2137
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:50,810
have to wait and see yeah a Ingo always

2138
01:34:55,060 --> 01:34:53,690
equivocate on the truth of that yeah and

2139
01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:55,070
it's really sad that we lost him

2140
01:34:58,149 --> 01:34:56,719
recently I know you were very close with

2141
01:35:02,100 --> 01:34:58,159
England you knew him for many many years

2142
01:35:05,740 --> 01:35:02,110
oh yeah we were friends for 40 years

2143
01:35:07,330 --> 01:35:05,750
Ingo started the program in 1972 he

2144
01:35:09,939 --> 01:35:07,340
taught hell on me how to do remote

2145
01:35:12,820 --> 01:35:09,949
viewing 70 Tuesday's 40 years ago we've

2146
01:35:14,740 --> 01:35:12,830
been doing remote doing yeah well burnt

2147
01:35:17,979 --> 01:35:14,750
State who is uh one of our more active

2148
01:35:19,540 --> 01:35:17,989
posters at forum dr. Peric ascom also

2149
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:19,550
has a question that's kind of a

2150
01:35:23,649 --> 01:35:22,250
follow-up to the previous one says Ingo

2151
01:35:25,629 --> 01:35:23,659
Swann claimed to have remote viewed

2152
01:35:27,910 --> 01:35:25,639
alien structures on the moon and alien

2153
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:27,920
creatures with SCI faculties while

2154
01:35:32,859 --> 01:35:30,730
working for an unknown government agency

2155
01:35:34,060 --> 01:35:32,869
his book which you've described about

2156
01:35:36,609 --> 01:35:34,070
these events claimed that there were not

2157
01:35:38,919 --> 01:35:36,619
only aliens in disguise on this planet

2158
01:35:40,990 --> 01:35:38,929
but that secret agencies were well aware

2159
01:35:42,910 --> 01:35:41,000
of these we're using SCI powers as part

2160
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:42,920
of their own investigation into these

2161
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:45,530
offworlders do you place any personal

2162
01:35:49,209 --> 01:35:47,810
stock in these claims and if so why have

2163
01:35:51,700 --> 01:35:49,219
we not heard more about remote viewing

2164
01:35:53,590 --> 01:35:51,710
in the past decade or any other

2165
01:35:55,180 --> 01:35:53,600
substantiating claims to confirm either

2166
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:55,190
aliens in our myths or that remote

2167
01:35:59,979 --> 01:35:56,960
viewing has the ability to produce

2168
01:36:02,530 --> 01:35:59,989
reliable results in this regard well

2169
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:02,540
there's a many part question first of

2170
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:03,760
all I don't believe the government

2171
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:06,530
agencies have any psychic powers to do

2172
01:36:14,590 --> 01:36:10,330
anything at all our program ended in

2173
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:14,600
1995 and it was run by a group of

2174
01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:16,850
courageous and highly intelligent people

2175
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:19,280
and as I look at our government right

2176
01:36:24,970 --> 01:36:22,250
now I don't see a lot of courage or

2177
01:36:28,450 --> 01:36:24,980
intelligence so I think that people

2178
01:36:30,970 --> 01:36:28,460
don't have the moral strength to pursue

2179
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:30,980
something as controversial as psychic

2180
01:36:37,689 --> 01:36:34,250
abilities with regard to aliens running

2181
01:36:40,750 --> 01:36:37,699
around there's certainly a lot of valid

2182
01:36:47,399 --> 01:36:40,760
research in UFOs that make it look as

2183
01:36:51,010 --> 01:36:47,409
though something like UFOs are around

2184
01:36:52,259 --> 01:36:51,020
interacting with researchers and people

2185
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:52,269
on the ground

2186
01:36:57,540 --> 01:36:55,090
ah but I think the evidence is very

2187
01:37:02,189 --> 01:36:57,550
strong that there is something like UFOs

2188
01:37:05,399 --> 01:37:02,199
and I don't know what it is and I would

2189
01:37:08,759 --> 01:37:05,409
not take penetration or don't a Kinkos

2190
01:37:10,859 --> 01:37:08,769
book has a particular guide for what to

2191
01:37:12,689 --> 01:37:10,869
do next because I don't know if he is

2192
01:37:15,810 --> 01:37:12,699
pulling your leg or whether that's

2193
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:15,820
recently saw yeah fair enough

2194
01:37:23,850 --> 01:37:20,170
another interesting group of questions

2195
01:37:26,430 --> 01:37:23,860
is in regard to uri geller and he was

2196
01:37:29,370 --> 01:37:26,440
one of the people that early on and sr i

2197
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,380
you studied and i have a number of

2198
01:37:33,330 --> 01:37:31,360
questions here do you think that Uri

2199
01:37:35,279 --> 01:37:33,340
Geller still possesses the abilities he

2200
01:37:38,129 --> 01:37:35,289
demonstrated under control conditions in

2201
01:37:40,290 --> 01:37:38,139
your tests and are these abilities

2202
01:37:42,180 --> 01:37:40,300
reliable at all or do you think they

2203
01:37:44,970 --> 01:37:42,190
deteriorate over time that's one

2204
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:44,980
question and the other question of

2205
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:46,239
course is the question a lot of people

2206
01:37:50,729 --> 01:37:48,489
have and that is that was he cheating on

2207
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:50,739
these was there really no way that he

2208
01:37:55,629 --> 01:37:52,449
could have cheated and were you

2209
01:37:58,030 --> 01:37:55,639
suspicious of him at the time

2210
01:38:00,850 --> 01:37:58,040
well a lot of parts of that question oh

2211
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:00,860
I don't know I have no reason to believe

2212
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:03,050
that people lose their psychic abilities

2213
01:38:10,419 --> 01:38:06,290
joannec Montag all started remote doing

2214
01:38:13,180 --> 01:38:10,429
with us at the end of the 1970s in the

2215
01:38:16,780 --> 01:38:13,190
army program and he still seems to be

2216
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:16,790
doing excellently is a career helping

2217
01:38:22,689 --> 01:38:19,850
people find minerals and traveling to

2218
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:22,699
Japan to find lost children and doing

2219
01:38:29,020 --> 01:38:26,110
television program so Joe has been a

2220
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:29,030
highly successful remote viewer for 30

2221
01:38:34,419 --> 01:38:32,210
years yeah well the thing is anything

2222
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:34,429
you get better at it it become more

2223
01:38:39,970 --> 01:38:37,130
skillful today our friend Howie Hamid

2224
01:38:42,399 --> 01:38:39,980
who is a photographer worked with us for

2225
01:38:45,070 --> 01:38:42,409
a decade and she certainly improved her

2226
01:38:48,189 --> 01:38:45,080
abilities over that decade there's more

2227
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:48,199
signal and less noise now his regard to

2228
01:38:54,180 --> 01:38:51,290
worry it's a complicated situation as

2229
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:54,190
you could imagine he came to our lab

2230
01:39:00,030 --> 01:38:57,290
supposedly to bend metal that did not

2231
01:39:03,790 --> 01:39:00,040
happen at our lab he said I can also

2232
01:39:06,220 --> 01:39:03,800
read people's minds and the experiment

2233
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:06,230
we did quite a number of times and

2234
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:09,050
published in nature magazine involved

2235
01:39:14,290 --> 01:39:11,290
being an artist in a shielded room

2236
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:14,300
Geller outside with another researcher

2237
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:16,850
the artists would choose a picture from

2238
01:39:22,629 --> 01:39:19,610
a dictionary and draw it and then Geller

2239
01:39:25,390 --> 01:39:22,639
outside in the room would make a copy of

2240
01:39:28,570 --> 01:39:25,400
the picture that the artist had draw and

2241
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:28,580
he did that excellently there's no doubt

2242
01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:31,610
that he could do and we saw him do that

2243
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:34,639
informally and in formal experiments oh

2244
01:39:40,450 --> 01:39:38,330
so I think that Geller demonstrated if

2245
01:39:41,709 --> 01:39:40,460
part of the question where we skeptical

2246
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:41,719
we were very cautious

2247
01:39:47,109 --> 01:39:44,210
there's my I'm a background in magic as

2248
01:39:49,930 --> 01:39:47,119
I mentioned at the top of the hours so

2249
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:49,940
I'm very cautious about not being

2250
01:39:55,060 --> 01:39:52,639
misdirected or tricked so I'm very

2251
01:39:58,330 --> 01:39:55,070
confident at Geller does manifest

2252
01:40:00,459 --> 01:39:58,340
psychic abilities and doesn't just watch

2253
01:40:04,450 --> 01:40:00,469
the top of your pan or substitute other

2254
01:40:06,689 --> 01:40:04,460
pictures so here's the killer juice

2255
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:06,699
there's two ability there how about

2256
01:40:11,830 --> 01:40:09,530
jello is not the most psychic person we

2257
01:40:14,140 --> 01:40:11,840
ever drew ever worked with but it is

2258
01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:14,150
very very competent if we say is doing

2259
01:40:18,879 --> 01:40:16,159
remote viewing it is very competent

2260
01:40:22,870 --> 01:40:18,889
remote viewing remote your up with the

2261
01:40:25,540 --> 01:40:22,880
best now famous the famous experiment

2262
01:40:27,220 --> 01:40:25,550
where he allegedly stopped the atomic

2263
01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:27,230
clock that's the one that really blows

2264
01:40:32,770 --> 01:40:30,800
my mind yeah I I I'm not I wasn't

2265
01:40:35,470 --> 01:40:32,780
involved with that but I can tell you

2266
01:40:38,500 --> 01:40:35,480
that he did not bend anything in our

2267
01:40:41,919 --> 01:40:38,510
experience and I he sort of denigrated

2268
01:40:43,810 --> 01:40:41,929
his ability for 10 years afterwards the

2269
01:40:46,330 --> 01:40:43,820
said yeah I gallery claims to bend stuff

2270
01:40:49,299 --> 01:40:46,340
but if you really keep your eye on him

2271
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:49,309
that are not able to do it and then

2272
01:40:55,899 --> 01:40:52,400
about 10 years later my partner that I

2273
01:40:57,970 --> 01:40:55,909
was working with was we were a spoon

2274
01:41:03,100 --> 01:40:57,980
bending party to something occurs in

2275
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:03,110
California a metallurgist from Martin

2276
01:41:07,870 --> 01:41:06,050
Marietta Jack Hulk has spoon bending

2277
01:41:11,319 --> 01:41:07,880
parties where he gets people all charged

2278
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:11,329
up and they can bend over where and my

2279
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:13,690
friend was the healer

2280
01:41:18,220 --> 01:41:16,159
she was quite bored with all those and

2281
01:41:20,169 --> 01:41:18,230
seen it before was just sort of

2282
01:41:23,740 --> 01:41:20,179
meditating with a tea spoon in her hand

2283
01:41:26,290 --> 01:41:23,750
in her fist and as we were cleaning up

2284
01:41:28,899 --> 01:41:26,300
after nothing had happened she screamed

2285
01:41:31,540 --> 01:41:28,909
being attention to getting device for

2286
01:41:33,939 --> 01:41:31,550
young woman and what had happened is

2287
01:41:36,250 --> 01:41:33,949
this tea spoon had rolled up in her hand

2288
01:41:38,819 --> 01:41:36,260
there's a bowl of the tea spoon had

2289
01:41:41,319 --> 01:41:38,829
rolled up like a little seashell and

2290
01:41:44,529 --> 01:41:41,329
went by the time we got home it had

2291
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:44,539
rolled up another 90 degrees till is now

2292
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:49,010
a tight spiral like a snail shell and I

2293
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:52,400
had grabbed a similar spoon and I very

2294
01:41:58,540 --> 01:41:55,520
strong and so I was able to bend the

2295
01:42:00,330 --> 01:41:58,550
bowl a spoon by brute but it broke so if

2296
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:00,340
you've been the thing by brute force

2297
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:04,250
this is a cheap stainless steel spoon it

2298
01:42:09,399 --> 01:42:07,489
can be bent but it's very hard to do but

2299
01:42:11,830 --> 01:42:09,409
it doesn't Bend gracefully as she had

2300
01:42:16,569 --> 01:42:11,840
done it so next time we went to spoon

2301
01:42:19,359 --> 01:42:16,579
bending party I chose for myself a foot

2302
01:42:22,540 --> 01:42:19,369
long three inch aluminum rod which

2303
01:42:23,290 --> 01:42:22,550
cannot bend by being strong I just

2304
01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:23,300
meditated

2305
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:25,760
holding that and by the ends of the rod

2306
01:42:31,540 --> 01:42:28,250
today with my eyes shut as everybody

2307
01:42:33,490 --> 01:42:31,550
yelled been spoon Bend and the thing

2308
01:42:36,610 --> 01:42:33,500
bent by about thirty degrees my

2309
01:42:39,550 --> 01:42:36,620
experience was that just got soft like a

2310
01:42:41,380 --> 01:42:39,560
screen door spring well covered more in

2311
01:42:43,690 --> 01:42:41,390
the next segment we have dr. Russell

2312
01:42:46,150 --> 01:42:43,700
Targ author of the reality of ESP

2313
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:46,160
joining gene and Chris and doing some

2314
01:42:50,440 --> 01:42:48,800
spoon bending I guess and I do wonder if

2315
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:50,450
some of our listeners are even now

2316
01:42:55,690 --> 01:42:53,090
preparing to get their spoons out

2317
01:43:04,180 --> 01:42:55,700
getting ready to bend them or have them

2318
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here's Jane Steinberg after you finish

2378
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:38,850
this doctor talk I'll tell you my lone

2379
01:45:44,030 --> 01:45:41,850
encounter with someone who did spoon

2380
01:45:46,220 --> 01:45:44,040
bending not expecting it to happen

2381
01:45:49,070 --> 01:45:46,230
anything further on that before we go on

2382
01:45:51,410 --> 01:45:49,080
and Dean Radin who's another researcher

2383
01:45:53,570 --> 01:45:51,420
at the Institute for noetic Sciences has

2384
01:45:56,570 --> 01:45:53,580
a bowl of a spoon and bend in his hand

2385
01:46:00,110 --> 01:45:56,580
now people who see the handle of a spoon

2386
01:46:02,540 --> 01:46:00,120
Bend is not so exciting for me because

2387
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:02,550
in principle if you get suitably excited

2388
01:46:07,610 --> 01:46:05,130
the average person can indeed bend the

2389
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:07,620
handle of a spoon but rolling up the

2390
01:46:13,940 --> 01:46:10,170
bowl of a spoon is essentially

2391
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:13,950
impossible there's I worked in lasers

2392
01:46:19,250 --> 01:46:16,770
and optics and factory floors and I

2393
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:19,260
wouldn't even know how to heat up a

2394
01:46:24,020 --> 01:46:21,570
spoon and wrap it around a mandrel put

2395
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:24,030
it in a hydrogen atmosphere so it

2396
01:46:29,900 --> 01:46:25,530
doesn't knock that would be an

2397
01:46:31,490 --> 01:46:29,910
incredible project to try and roll up a

2398
01:46:33,650 --> 01:46:31,500
bowl of a spoon it's essentially

2399
01:46:35,390 --> 01:46:33,660
impossible but I've now seen that a

2400
01:46:38,060 --> 01:46:35,400
couple of times that changed my

2401
01:46:40,010 --> 01:46:38,070
impression about what Geller is doing

2402
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:40,020
now the only story I can give you about

2403
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:42,770
Geller is this one I was dating a woman

2404
01:46:48,950 --> 01:46:46,770
named Sally back in the 1970s for a

2405
01:46:50,330 --> 01:46:48,960
brief period of time and what she heard

2406
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:50,340
I was interested in the power and almost

2407
01:46:54,860 --> 01:46:52,110
she told me about this particular event

2408
01:46:57,260 --> 01:46:54,870
she saw Geller on TV bend a spoon

2409
01:47:00,860 --> 01:46:57,270
she had a spoon in her hand for whatever

2410
01:47:03,170 --> 01:47:00,870
reason and that spoon bent also so there

2411
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:03,180
you go make of that what you will

2412
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:06,480
well Geller gave her permission okay

2413
01:47:12,260 --> 01:47:08,400
this is I'm now convinced that people

2414
01:47:15,890 --> 01:47:12,270
can bend spoons rarely but it can happen

2415
01:47:17,150 --> 01:47:15,900
I have three instances me my friend Jane

2416
01:47:21,470 --> 01:47:17,160
and Dean Radin

2417
01:47:24,290 --> 01:47:21,480
all of whom I trust implicitly have been

2418
01:47:27,980 --> 01:47:24,300
objects that could not have that if you

2419
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:27,990
have a rollup spoon that's something you

2420
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:29,850
would call inherently a paranormal

2421
01:47:33,740 --> 01:47:32,370
object because there's no way to make

2422
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:33,750
that object

2423
01:47:38,930 --> 01:47:35,730
you've got an object that could not

2424
01:47:41,690 --> 01:47:38,940
exist in nature so does that got my

2425
01:47:43,970 --> 01:47:41,700
attention so I think that the Geller on

2426
01:47:46,660 --> 01:47:43,980
television gave your girlfriend

2427
01:47:49,370 --> 01:47:46,670
permission to make use of her ability

2428
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:49,380
well there's also the famous case when

2429
01:47:53,900 --> 01:47:51,930
Geller did I think one of his first real

2430
01:47:56,780 --> 01:47:53,910
large radio broadcasts I think was in

2431
01:48:00,260 --> 01:47:56,790
England that over a thousand people had

2432
01:48:02,450 --> 01:48:00,270
you know long dead clocks come back to

2433
01:48:04,610 --> 01:48:02,460
life and start working spoons were

2434
01:48:05,930 --> 01:48:04,620
bending spontaneously all over England

2435
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:05,940
even across the English Channel in

2436
01:48:11,150 --> 01:48:08,610
France if I I remember correctly so he's

2437
01:48:13,850 --> 01:48:11,160
a celebrity right now gather sort of

2438
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:13,860
professional celebrity yeah here's a

2439
01:48:20,780 --> 01:48:17,250
beautiful house on the Thames and people

2440
01:48:24,350 --> 01:48:20,790
is a favorite interview person yeah he's

2441
01:48:26,690 --> 01:48:24,360
quite a character I've got several books

2442
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:26,700
about him and he's he's a real enigma

2443
01:48:32,900 --> 01:48:30,330
he's a nice man is kind he's nice to

2444
01:48:35,540 --> 01:48:32,910
children I had little children at that

2445
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:35,550
time 30 years or 40 years ago on his

2446
01:48:41,030 --> 01:48:37,890
very nice patient-friendly with my kids

2447
01:48:43,370 --> 01:48:41,040
we even had one crippled boy who had

2448
01:48:45,260 --> 01:48:43,380
some kind of bone disease and Geller

2449
01:48:47,660 --> 01:48:45,270
spent a lot of time kneeling down with

2450
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:47,670
his little kit by his wheelchair helping

2451
01:48:51,530 --> 01:48:49,050
him bend a spoon and where he could

2452
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:51,540
hardly lift his hand there's a very very

2453
01:48:56,810 --> 01:48:54,570
touching kind-hearted man yeah I've

2454
01:48:59,420 --> 01:48:56,820
heard skeptics say on a number of

2455
01:49:02,510 --> 01:48:59,430
occasions that no Police Department has

2456
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:02,520
ever successfully been aided in a case

2457
01:49:08,900 --> 01:49:05,760
by a psychic and you bring up a very

2458
01:49:12,250 --> 01:49:08,910
interesting case in regards to the

2459
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:12,260
kidnapping of Patty Hearst why don't you

2460
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:15,050
give us a quick sketch on how that

2461
01:49:19,550 --> 01:49:17,790
particular remote viewing session turned

2462
01:49:21,740 --> 01:49:19,560
out and with amazing results I might add

2463
01:49:24,910 --> 01:49:21,750
yeah we were involved in that one day

2464
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:24,920
after Patty Hearst was kidnapped back in

2465
01:49:31,730 --> 01:49:28,290
1974 all the police were so distressed

2466
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:31,740
and in unable to do anything once they

2467
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,080
incompetent they just did every clues

2468
01:49:39,770 --> 01:49:36,480
they call it that as though I could they

2469
01:49:42,290 --> 01:49:39,780
knew that we had a ESP program and he

2470
01:49:44,300 --> 01:49:42,300
said can you help and price said oh yeah

2471
01:49:47,270 --> 01:49:44,310
I've been doing that all my life so

2472
01:49:50,180 --> 01:49:47,280
he'll and the policeman have

2473
01:49:52,910 --> 01:49:50,190
I drove to Berkeley and one of the

2474
01:49:54,650 --> 01:49:52,920
police station and a police abuse a lot

2475
01:49:56,660 --> 01:49:54,660
of questions we want to ask you and

2476
01:49:59,270 --> 01:49:56,670
prices let me tell you how we do this

2477
01:50:01,940 --> 01:49:59,280
just give me your mug book do the big

2478
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:01,950
loose leaf binder with pictures of all

2479
01:50:08,090 --> 01:50:04,890
the usual suspects they laid that down

2480
01:50:10,970 --> 01:50:08,100
big oak table stood over it and turned

2481
01:50:13,220 --> 01:50:10,980
the pages of this loose leaf binder that

2482
01:50:16,310 --> 01:50:13,230
had four pictures to a page and turn

2483
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:16,320
them and turn them about 50 pictures

2484
01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:18,690
into the book and put his finger on the

2485
01:50:24,290 --> 01:50:21,360
face of one guy that was Donald DeVries

2486
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:24,300
which we now know was the ringleader

2487
01:50:29,060 --> 01:50:26,570
they said that guy is the ringleader

2488
01:50:32,990 --> 01:50:29,070
police said well that's very interesting

2489
01:50:38,060 --> 01:50:33,000
we know who DeVries is he escaped from a

2490
01:50:40,130 --> 01:50:38,070
minimum security prison in Folsom Prison

2491
01:50:42,410 --> 01:50:40,140
he was out on our prison farm he just

2492
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:42,420
walked away but we haven't heard from

2493
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:45,210
him for the past year can you tell us

2494
01:50:50,270 --> 01:50:47,850
something useful well let you know if we

2495
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:50,280
ever hear from DeVries which they did in

2496
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:52,970
a week degrees came and asked for

2497
01:50:58,370 --> 01:50:55,890
described the SLA who is the terrorist

2498
01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:58,380
group who did the kidnapping they asked

2499
01:51:04,220 --> 01:51:00,480
for money for the poor people of Oakland

2500
01:51:07,670 --> 01:51:04,230
the DeVries identified himself so that

2501
01:51:08,810 --> 01:51:07,680
was a hit the following week but they

2502
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:08,820
said what can you tell us something

2503
01:51:14,660 --> 01:51:11,610
useful like where's the kidnap car and

2504
01:51:18,770 --> 01:51:14,670
priced at oh that's north of here it's

2505
01:51:21,470 --> 01:51:18,780
about 50 miles north it's by a diner the

2506
01:51:24,710 --> 01:51:21,480
white station wagon and the diner is

2507
01:51:26,390 --> 01:51:24,720
across the freeway from two tall gas

2508
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:26,400
storage tanks and this pedestrian

2509
01:51:31,850 --> 01:51:30,330
overpass crossing the freeway and one of

2510
01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:31,860
the detectives said well I know where

2511
01:51:39,050 --> 01:51:34,560
that is that's on my way to Vallejo

2512
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:39,060
where I live they dispatched a police

2513
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:42,000
car went to the diner and found this

2514
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:44,850
white station wagon and they knew is the

2515
01:51:48,890 --> 01:51:46,770
right car because it had cartridges

2516
01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:48,900
rolling around on the floorboards of the

2517
01:51:54,770 --> 01:51:52,560
car and those cartridges matched the

2518
01:51:58,250 --> 01:51:54,780
cartridges that we saw under petitioner

2519
01:52:00,860 --> 01:51:58,260
the hearse bed in the dorm room where

2520
01:52:03,890 --> 01:52:00,870
she was living so we knew our

2521
01:52:07,100 --> 01:52:03,900
on the spot that price had successfully

2522
01:52:09,770 --> 01:52:07,110
described and located the car so they

2523
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:09,780
could go directly and pick up the car

2524
01:52:14,150 --> 01:52:11,250
and search it for prints and other

2525
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:14,160
information so that's as close to magic

2526
01:52:19,310 --> 01:52:16,530
as I've ever seen cuz he was able to

2527
01:52:22,010 --> 01:52:19,320
disclose his eyes pinpoint a car 50

2528
01:52:24,140 --> 01:52:22,020
miles away and tell you where it is so

2529
01:52:27,050 --> 01:52:24,150
for all the skeptics out there that and

2530
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:27,060
I've seen this at forum dr. Peric ascom

2531
01:52:32,150 --> 01:52:29,280
it's been stated that no one has ever

2532
01:52:35,060 --> 01:52:32,160
known psychically has ever aided in a

2533
01:52:37,670 --> 01:52:35,070
kidnap or missing persons case and

2534
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:37,680
there's a classic example of that being

2535
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:40,050
refuted now in your book you also go

2536
01:52:45,500 --> 01:52:43,770
into the whole idea of psycho literary

2537
01:52:48,740 --> 01:52:45,510
commendation from the Berkeley Police

2538
01:52:51,020 --> 01:52:48,750
Department for that caper there's a

2539
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:51,030
radio right they wrote tests all right

2540
01:52:56,210 --> 01:52:54,480
thanking us for our help well how about

2541
01:52:58,160 --> 01:52:56,220
the subject of healing now you do

2542
01:53:02,840 --> 01:52:58,170
address in your book that that there is

2543
01:53:05,540 --> 01:53:02,850
a psychic component to the healing

2544
01:53:09,310 --> 01:53:05,550
process and that it can be aided by

2545
01:53:11,930 --> 01:53:09,320
someone with intent how is that possible

2546
01:53:13,550 --> 01:53:11,940
well the evidence for healing is really

2547
01:53:17,210 --> 01:53:13,560
quite good there are many books

2548
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:17,220
published on the efficacy of healing my

2549
01:53:25,690 --> 01:53:20,850
daughter Elizabeth is a psychiatrist did

2550
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:25,700
a now famous experiment where she had 20

2551
01:53:33,470 --> 01:53:28,850
experienced healers across the country

2552
01:53:36,950 --> 01:53:33,480
send their healing intentions to 30 of

2553
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:36,960
her AIDS patients she is a psychiatrist

2554
01:53:43,910 --> 01:53:41,130
in San Francisco had 60 men who are

2555
01:53:48,770 --> 01:53:43,920
suffering from AIDS she divided them is

2556
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:48,780
a very careful equal partition state so

2557
01:53:54,350 --> 01:53:51,570
the same degree of sickness they made so

2558
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:54,360
forth and 30 of those would be controls

2559
01:54:00,170 --> 01:53:57,210
and 30 would have people sending them

2560
01:54:03,350 --> 01:54:00,180
energy praying for them good wishes

2561
01:54:05,450 --> 01:54:03,360
whatever and the people who were in the

2562
01:54:08,440 --> 01:54:05,460
prayed for a group had much better

2563
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:08,450
outcomes of the controls that fewer

2564
01:54:11,780 --> 01:54:10,890
opportunistic illnesses fewer trips to

2565
01:54:14,750 --> 01:54:11,790
the hospital

2566
01:54:18,020 --> 01:54:14,760
much better psychological response

2567
01:54:20,419 --> 01:54:18,030
a fewer days in the hospital so the

2568
01:54:24,049 --> 01:54:20,429
group that received the prayers were

2569
01:54:26,060 --> 01:54:24,059
highly significantly better off than the

2570
01:54:28,580 --> 01:54:26,070
control that she published in the

2571
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:28,590
Western medical journal and it's been

2572
01:54:36,410 --> 01:54:33,090
the subject of other NIH validations and

2573
01:54:38,839 --> 01:54:36,420
a two other big healing experiments that

2574
01:54:41,930 --> 01:54:38,849
were done in the East Coast both for

2575
01:54:45,859 --> 01:54:41,940
cardiac patients where the were two

2576
01:54:49,279 --> 01:54:45,869
physicians William Harris and Randolph

2577
01:54:52,250 --> 01:54:49,289
Byrd both were physically acquisitions

2578
01:54:55,399 --> 01:54:52,260
had people pray for their cardiac

2579
01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:55,409
patients and in both instances the

2580
01:54:59,419 --> 01:54:57,090
people prayed for have much better

2581
01:55:01,609 --> 01:54:59,429
outcomes from the controls we have a lot

2582
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more to cover dr. Russell Targ joining

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gene and Chris in the Eric cast

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most complete and in our opinion the

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most powerful in what nature originally

2670
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put into the fresh who are way it is one

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world way call eight eight eight nine

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eight eight three three two five that's

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eight eight eight nine eight eight three

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three two five or visit one world wacom

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that's one world wh ey com we'd like to

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hear from you if you have a comment or

2677
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question about the power

2678
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sent it to news at the para caste calm

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that's news at the para caste calm and

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2683
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with dr. Russell Targ who is author of a

2684
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fascinating new book called the reality

2685
01:59:48,279 --> 01:59:45,050
of ESP we talked about shall we say

2686
01:59:51,580 --> 01:59:48,289
being able to influence a positive

2687
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:51,590
outcome for someone who is sick what

2688
01:59:56,169 --> 01:59:54,050
about the reverse if people wish ill on

2689
01:59:59,379 --> 01:59:56,179
someone or something can that cause

2690
02:00:03,430 --> 01:59:59,389
negative results well I'd like to say a

2691
02:00:06,580 --> 02:00:03,440
word about the positive aspect first it

2692
02:00:09,100 --> 02:00:06,590
it's not as though the person is sending

2693
02:00:11,859 --> 02:00:09,110
healing energy if we were a Reiki healer

2694
02:00:14,169 --> 02:00:11,869
who's standing over you when you're sick

2695
02:00:16,899 --> 02:00:14,179
the Reiki healer feels that she's

2696
02:00:19,209 --> 02:00:16,909
sending energy to you from her hands and

2697
02:00:21,759 --> 02:00:19,219
there may be something to that because

2698
02:00:24,189 --> 02:00:21,769
you certainly feel warmth on the other

2699
02:00:26,859 --> 02:00:24,199
hand if you ask a Reiki healer well

2700
02:00:28,330 --> 02:00:26,869
thank you for help you've given me can

2701
02:00:30,850 --> 02:00:28,340
you do anything for my brother in

2702
02:00:33,220 --> 02:00:30,860
Chicago and sure they're all distance

2703
02:00:37,209 --> 02:00:33,230
doesn't matter okay I can send him

2704
02:00:39,129 --> 02:00:37,219
energy now the fact that the Reiki

2705
02:00:39,669 --> 02:00:39,139
healers think that this works just as

2706
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:39,679
well

2707
02:00:45,549 --> 02:00:43,010
thousands of miles away as it does in

2708
02:00:48,729 --> 02:00:45,559
the near field indicate that this is

2709
02:00:51,459 --> 02:00:48,739
probably not sending energy it's more

2710
02:00:55,479 --> 02:00:51,469
like you're certainly healing intentions

2711
02:00:58,569 --> 02:00:55,489
or sending information to enable a

2712
02:01:01,060 --> 02:00:58,579
person whose own immune system to heal

2713
02:01:05,620 --> 02:01:01,070
them does anything that the independent

2714
02:01:08,109 --> 02:01:05,630
of distance is non-local and as you know

2715
02:01:11,049 --> 02:01:08,119
the further away you get from a source

2716
02:01:13,810 --> 02:01:11,059
the energy falls off of the square of

2717
02:01:16,450 --> 02:01:13,820
that distance so if you're a thousand

2718
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:16,460
feet away the strength of your healing

2719
02:01:22,509 --> 02:01:19,610
intention is a million times weaker than

2720
02:01:25,330 --> 02:01:22,519
if you're one foot away so it's not so

2721
02:01:27,310 --> 02:01:25,340
likely that you're sending energy how

2722
02:01:29,709 --> 02:01:27,320
what it's like is that you see you're

2723
02:01:31,569 --> 02:01:29,719
sending your healing intentions it's as

2724
02:01:33,579 --> 02:01:31,579
though you're sitting a psychic get-well

2725
02:01:36,489 --> 02:01:33,589
card rather than

2726
02:01:38,319 --> 02:01:36,499
the key to putting a lot and the

2727
02:01:41,770 --> 02:01:38,329
evidence for distance healing is really

2728
02:01:45,879 --> 02:01:41,780
quite good now with regard to harming

2729
02:01:50,099 --> 02:01:45,889
people at a distance well anything that

2730
02:01:53,919 --> 02:01:50,109
exists can be used for good or for harm

2731
02:01:57,189 --> 02:01:53,929
example if I invent a way of purify

2732
02:02:00,339 --> 02:01:57,199
water to use that water to drink or use

2733
02:02:04,270 --> 02:02:00,349
it drown somebody or waterboard them so

2734
02:02:06,459 --> 02:02:04,280
it would be surprising if healing was

2735
02:02:10,839 --> 02:02:06,469
the only thing that could be used only

2736
02:02:13,659 --> 02:02:10,849
for good in Brazil for example do the

2737
02:02:17,349 --> 02:02:13,669
black magicians the ambadas who

2738
02:02:20,919 --> 02:02:17,359
frequently will be hired to do something

2739
02:02:23,739 --> 02:02:20,929
bad to your enemy and a lot of

2740
02:02:26,849 --> 02:02:23,749
literature a lot of experiments I was at

2741
02:02:30,969 --> 02:02:26,859
a psychotronics conference in Brazil

2742
02:02:33,549 --> 02:02:30,979
where nobody doubted that the black

2743
02:02:35,979 --> 02:02:33,559
magicians could harm another person the

2744
02:02:39,009 --> 02:02:35,989
session we had is what can they actually

2745
02:02:43,509 --> 02:02:39,019
do and what's the best evidence so for

2746
02:02:44,859 --> 02:02:43,519
example if you're a powerful telepathic

2747
02:02:49,149 --> 02:02:44,869
person ah

2748
02:02:52,059 --> 02:02:49,159
you can certainly confuse the distant

2749
02:02:55,479 --> 02:02:52,069
person and the evidence is very strong

2750
02:02:58,179 --> 02:02:55,489
for what they call distant mental

2751
02:03:00,549 --> 02:02:58,189
influence with thoughts of one person

2752
02:03:03,579 --> 02:03:00,559
can affect the physiology of another

2753
02:03:07,629 --> 02:03:03,589
person affected heart rate blood

2754
02:03:10,229 --> 02:03:07,639
pressure galvanic skin response so that

2755
02:03:13,479 --> 02:03:10,239
in controlled experiments which are done

2756
02:03:16,270 --> 02:03:13,489
copiously in america under the general

2757
02:03:20,909 --> 02:03:16,280
title this invented influence on living

2758
02:03:24,219 --> 02:03:20,919
systems you can affect the physiology of

2759
02:03:26,979 --> 02:03:24,229
distant people and at the highly

2760
02:03:31,059 --> 02:03:26,989
repeatable experiment I hope that's not

2761
02:03:34,299 --> 02:03:31,069
bad news well just imagine if you get a

2762
02:03:37,719 --> 02:03:34,309
group of black magicians together what

2763
02:03:40,389 --> 02:03:37,729
could possibly be attained with group

2764
02:03:43,149 --> 02:03:40,399
groupthink are you familiar with Greg

2765
02:03:45,879 --> 02:03:43,159
Braden's experiment that took place in

2766
02:03:47,529 --> 02:03:45,889
Lebanon during the Lebanese conflict in

2767
02:03:51,220 --> 02:03:47,539
the early 80s where

2768
02:03:54,879 --> 02:03:51,230
group of people with intention meditated

2769
02:03:57,700 --> 02:03:54,889
a basically peace and within that time

2770
02:03:59,740 --> 02:03:57,710
period where the meditations were going

2771
02:04:01,959 --> 02:03:59,750
on round-the-clock all all hostilities

2772
02:04:03,959 --> 02:04:01,969
ceased they thought it may have been

2773
02:04:06,490 --> 02:04:03,969
just some sort of coincidence or

2774
02:04:08,379 --> 02:04:06,500
synchronicity and they repeated that

2775
02:04:09,430 --> 02:04:08,389
experiment a number of times are you

2776
02:04:12,549 --> 02:04:09,440
familiar with that

2777
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:12,559
what is the role in I love red but I

2778
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:14,690
know gregg braden but I didn't know he

2779
02:04:19,450 --> 02:04:17,690
did experiment he normally is he often

2780
02:04:21,910 --> 02:04:19,460
appears at conferences talking about

2781
02:04:24,370 --> 02:04:21,920
other people who experiment well he may

2782
02:04:26,470 --> 02:04:24,380
not have been directly involved but I do

2783
02:04:29,049 --> 02:04:26,480
recall him telling the story of this

2784
02:04:33,580 --> 02:04:29,059
group of meditators who who in their

2785
02:04:34,450 --> 02:04:33,590
opinion were able to to inexplicably in

2786
02:04:36,580 --> 02:04:34,460
in some sense

2787
02:04:38,979 --> 02:04:36,590
stopall have made possibility morally

2788
02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:38,989
you know the transcendental meditators

2789
02:04:44,649 --> 02:04:41,690
often do experiments of that kind go

2790
02:04:46,950 --> 02:04:44,659
into an area where you have a large

2791
02:04:49,479 --> 02:04:46,960
group of meditative thousand meditators

2792
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:49,489
peacefully meditating I know that

2793
02:04:52,089 --> 02:04:51,050
they've done experiments like that in

2794
02:04:55,959 --> 02:04:52,099
Washington DC

2795
02:04:59,350 --> 02:04:55,969
well how about that can the everything

2796
02:05:01,149 --> 02:04:59,360
I've taught told you now it's true my

2797
02:05:05,770 --> 02:05:01,159
own experience I'm confident that it's

2798
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:05,780
true oh the big literature put out by

2799
02:05:10,720 --> 02:05:07,730
the TM organizations Maharishi

2800
02:05:13,359 --> 02:05:10,730
organization attempting to their

2801
02:05:16,479 --> 02:05:13,369
experiments where you're a group of

2802
02:05:18,279 --> 02:05:16,489
meditators and particularly remember the

2803
02:05:21,189 --> 02:05:18,289
experiment in Washington DC there's a

2804
02:05:22,959 --> 02:05:21,199
lot of violent crime during the months

2805
02:05:25,180 --> 02:05:22,969
when they would have people meditating

2806
02:05:28,330 --> 02:05:25,190
there was much less violent crime in the

2807
02:05:31,060 --> 02:05:28,340
city now there's several experiments

2808
02:05:32,500 --> 02:05:31,070
like fast and the experiments are out

2809
02:05:33,930 --> 02:05:32,510
there I don't know anything firsthand

2810
02:05:37,209 --> 02:05:33,940
about it I don't know if they've been

2811
02:05:39,939 --> 02:05:37,219
criticized but indeed the the TM

2812
02:05:43,330 --> 02:05:39,949
organization thinks that a group of

2813
02:05:47,109 --> 02:05:43,340
meditators can indeed cut down the

2814
02:05:50,109 --> 02:05:47,119
amount of unhappiness of crime by

2815
02:05:51,609 --> 02:05:50,119
meditating peacefully how about the

2816
02:05:54,399 --> 02:05:51,619
whole concept of the collective

2817
02:05:57,220 --> 02:05:54,409
unconscious do you think that there's

2818
02:06:01,060 --> 02:05:57,230
some sort of tie in with sort of a young

2819
02:06:03,839 --> 02:06:01,070
Aryan sense of that in in these

2820
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:03,849
what appear to be abilities in everyone

2821
02:06:10,750 --> 02:06:06,290
how does that tie into some sort of a

2822
02:06:13,270 --> 02:06:10,760
collective unconscious scenario well

2823
02:06:15,310 --> 02:06:13,280
there certainly a collective unconscious

2824
02:06:21,220 --> 02:06:15,320
is a good description for what a lot of

2825
02:06:25,109 --> 02:06:21,230
people see for example ah if the many

2826
02:06:27,540 --> 02:06:25,119
many people had premonitions of the

2827
02:06:35,319 --> 02:06:27,550
destruction of the World Trade Center

2828
02:06:38,189 --> 02:06:35,329
there was sort of in the air all famous

2829
02:06:40,899 --> 02:06:38,199
painter drew a painting of an airplane

2830
02:06:45,220 --> 02:06:40,909
crashing into the TWiT into the one of

2831
02:06:48,220 --> 02:06:45,230
the Twin Towers and as I mentioned

2832
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:48,230
earlier people stayed off airplanes that

2833
02:06:54,310 --> 02:06:51,110
is they're about five hundred people

2834
02:07:01,660 --> 02:06:54,320
failed to fly on their airplanes on the

2835
02:07:04,919 --> 02:07:01,670
day of the plane crash so world events

2836
02:07:08,589 --> 02:07:04,929
like that affect big groups of people

2837
02:07:10,149 --> 02:07:08,599
there the experiments being done in

2838
02:07:11,740 --> 02:07:10,159
Princeton sharing the collective

2839
02:07:14,649 --> 02:07:11,750
unconscious where a whole group of

2840
02:07:19,510 --> 02:07:14,659
random number generators are lying the

2841
02:07:22,209 --> 02:07:19,520
egg that's right it was a major spike

2842
02:07:25,390 --> 02:07:22,219
just just prior to 9/11 if I remember

2843
02:07:28,300 --> 02:07:25,400
correctly that's right so it makes it

2844
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:28,310
look as though there's some coherence in

2845
02:07:33,970 --> 02:07:30,770
consciousness of people all over the

2846
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:33,980
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the forecast just write news at the

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2850
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book is the reality of ESP a physicist

2851
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proof of psychic abilities and we're

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[Music]

2952
02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:20,260
this is Jacques Vallee

2953
02:12:32,070 --> 02:12:24,310
you're listening to the podcast the gold

2954
02:12:34,650 --> 02:12:32,080
standard of paranormal radio I think

2955
02:12:37,860 --> 02:12:34,660
where is your folks is that people think

2956
02:12:39,780 --> 02:12:37,870
I'm psycho anyway dr. Targ was answering

2957
02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:39,790
a question from Chris and then we still

2958
02:12:43,380 --> 02:12:41,110
have some more questions in the till

2959
02:12:46,170 --> 02:12:43,390
from the question Bank at Forum dr.

2960
02:12:47,730 --> 02:12:46,180
Peric ascom that's right Chris correct

2961
02:12:49,710 --> 02:12:47,740
we've got a ton of them you've answered

2962
02:12:52,500 --> 02:12:49,720
a lot of the questions that have been

2963
02:12:55,110 --> 02:12:52,510
posted by our listeners that they your

2964
02:12:56,970 --> 02:12:55,120
appearance on the show is probably

2965
02:12:59,190 --> 02:12:56,980
setting a record here for the number of

2966
02:13:01,170 --> 02:12:59,200
questions this is real exciting for a

2967
02:13:03,210 --> 02:13:01,180
lot of our listeners to have you on the

2968
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:03,220
show we again thank you so much for

2969
02:13:06,270 --> 02:13:04,810
taking the time to be here this is

2970
02:13:08,220 --> 02:13:06,280
something that's always bothered me

2971
02:13:10,710 --> 02:13:08,230
about mainstream science and academia

2972
02:13:12,420 --> 02:13:10,720
it's like pulling elephant teeth or

2973
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:12,430
something to try to get these people to

2974
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:15,010
even look at the data now that your book

2975
02:13:18,930 --> 02:13:17,050
has been published and going through it

2976
02:13:21,420 --> 02:13:18,940
and almost reading the whole thing I

2977
02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:21,430
just I'm devouring the book this to me

2978
02:13:28,470 --> 02:13:26,170
is probably the finest tool that anyone

2979
02:13:30,270 --> 02:13:28,480
could have to hand to one of their

2980
02:13:33,780 --> 02:13:30,280
skeptical scientist friends and say

2981
02:13:35,550 --> 02:13:33,790
since you have been asking us to prove

2982
02:13:37,550 --> 02:13:35,560
all this stuff are asking me to prove

2983
02:13:38,850 --> 02:13:37,560
that all this stuff is real that

2984
02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:38,860
psychokinesis

2985
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:41,920
you know remote-viewing in these types

2986
02:13:49,380 --> 02:13:46,690
of ESP style subjects your book I think

2987
02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:49,390
is the perfect thing to hand a scientist

2988
02:13:53,700 --> 02:13:51,280
and say what do you think of this

2989
02:13:55,890 --> 02:13:53,710
because you are publishing your data in

2990
02:13:58,650 --> 02:13:55,900
here and you're you know you're a famous

2991
02:14:00,750 --> 02:13:58,660
scientist so how do you think the impact

2992
02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:00,760
is going to be in the scientific and

2993
02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:02,320
academic community do you think they're

2994
02:14:05,580 --> 02:14:03,760
just going to ignore this or do you

2995
02:14:07,500 --> 02:14:05,590
think that this is really gonna help us

2996
02:14:09,330 --> 02:14:07,510
move the conversation to the next level

2997
02:14:11,030 --> 02:14:09,340
I think it'll make a difference for

2998
02:14:13,950 --> 02:14:11,040
example it was very happy to get a

2999
02:14:16,950 --> 02:14:13,960
strong positive endorsement from Brian

3000
02:14:19,230 --> 02:14:16,960
Joseph Nobel Prize winner in physics who

3001
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:19,240
said that the data in this book is very

3002
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:21,850
convincing to people were still dubious

3003
02:14:26,670 --> 02:14:24,370
about psychic abilities so if you have a

3004
02:14:27,810 --> 02:14:26,680
physicist to give it to you say this

3005
02:14:30,930 --> 02:14:27,820
book has been into

3006
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:30,940
by Brian Joseph good at least a step in

3007
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:33,250
the right direction my hope of course is

3008
02:14:37,740 --> 02:14:35,770
it will make a difference and the reason

3009
02:14:40,410 --> 02:14:37,750
I stay a physicist proof of psychic

3010
02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:40,420
abilities is because the evidence is so

3011
02:14:47,209 --> 02:14:44,320
strong the statistically unreasonable to

3012
02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:47,219
doubt the data that is no longer my

3013
02:14:52,939 --> 02:14:50,650
opinion or collection of papers today is

3014
02:14:56,550 --> 02:14:52,949
just overwhelming for many many sources

3015
02:14:58,919 --> 02:14:56,560
but something like ESP exists and when I

3016
02:15:01,500 --> 02:14:58,929
say something like ESP it's not

3017
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:01,510
equivocation it just we don't know for a

3018
02:15:06,330 --> 02:15:03,760
fact how ESP works we know how to

3019
02:15:09,390 --> 02:15:06,340
manifest it and I can show you how to do

3020
02:15:13,439 --> 02:15:09,400
it and in recent years we have a model

3021
02:15:15,689 --> 02:15:13,449
for the non-local space-time to actually

3022
02:15:16,589 --> 02:15:15,699
Binkowski first discovered this

3023
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:16,599
Binkowski

3024
02:15:23,580 --> 02:15:20,320
was a Polish mathematician who taught

3025
02:15:26,430 --> 02:15:23,590
high Stein how to describe the world in

3026
02:15:30,120 --> 02:15:26,440
terms of space-time inside a very hard

3027
02:15:32,310 --> 02:15:30,130
time modeling general relativity in the

3028
02:15:34,790 --> 02:15:32,320
early part of 20th century and meant

3029
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:34,800
Kowski said if you'll just consider

3030
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:37,690
space and time a description of a

3031
02:15:42,419 --> 02:15:40,210
manifold we live in a world in which

3032
02:15:42,899 --> 02:15:42,429
space and time can be traded for one

3033
02:15:45,089 --> 02:15:42,909
another

3034
02:15:47,939 --> 02:15:45,099
Minkowski invented the idea of

3035
02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:47,949
space-time and by the way if there was

3036
02:15:54,209 --> 02:15:50,770
complex space-time the instead of are

3037
02:15:56,370 --> 02:15:54,219
familiar four dimensions if you had each

3038
02:15:59,040 --> 02:15:56,380
of those dimensions being a complex

3039
02:16:01,950 --> 02:15:59,050
number then it would be a non-local

3040
02:16:03,990 --> 02:16:01,960
space-time that is there'd be no

3041
02:16:07,319 --> 02:16:04,000
separation the color would always be a

3042
02:16:09,450 --> 02:16:07,329
path through the complex space-time with

3043
02:16:12,660 --> 02:16:09,460
that path the x squared plus y squared

3044
02:16:14,970 --> 02:16:12,670
would equal zero so this is not new age

3045
02:16:17,819 --> 02:16:14,980
has been talked about by mathematicians

3046
02:16:20,129 --> 02:16:17,829
per century Minkowski of course wasn't

3047
02:16:23,930 --> 02:16:20,139
thinking about psychic abilities but

3048
02:16:26,970 --> 02:16:23,940
even today Roger Penrose the premier

3049
02:16:28,620 --> 02:16:26,980
theoretical physicist in England has

3050
02:16:30,689 --> 02:16:28,630
written a big book called road to

3051
02:16:33,719 --> 02:16:30,699
reality where he's talking about

3052
02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:33,729
Minkowski is complex space-time as a

3053
02:16:38,099 --> 02:16:35,530
possible mechanism for letting

3054
02:16:40,560 --> 02:16:38,109
information come from the future into

3055
02:16:41,700 --> 02:16:40,570
the present so ESP has become less

3056
02:16:44,750 --> 02:16:41,710
spooky

3057
02:16:48,479 --> 02:16:44,760
you get people with strong mathematical

3058
02:16:50,969 --> 02:16:48,489
credentials describing our version of

3059
02:16:53,059 --> 02:16:50,979
space-time that allows it to pissed so

3060
02:16:56,189 --> 02:16:53,069
you could talk about distributed

3061
02:16:58,349 --> 02:16:56,199
consciousness but that and cosmic

3062
02:17:00,990 --> 02:16:58,359
consciousness and so forth and the

3063
02:17:03,750 --> 02:17:01,000
manifestation of that but that cosmic

3064
02:17:06,570 --> 02:17:03,760
consciousness doesn't have explanatory

3065
02:17:09,929 --> 02:17:06,580
powers if your if your awareness is

3066
02:17:12,900 --> 02:17:09,939
non-local what you get is distributed

3067
02:17:15,450 --> 02:17:12,910
consciousness it's like like we said

3068
02:17:17,849 --> 02:17:15,460
before it's like if you take a hologram

3069
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:17,859
and you break it each of the pieces of

3070
02:17:21,929 --> 02:17:20,050
the hologram have have the original

3071
02:17:23,759 --> 02:17:21,939
image in it the smaller the piece the

3072
02:17:25,919 --> 02:17:23,769
more degraded the image obviously but

3073
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:25,929
the whole idea of nonlocality I think

3074
02:17:29,910 --> 02:17:27,370
for the average person is a little

3075
02:17:31,650 --> 02:17:29,920
little bit tough to grasp fortunately we

3076
02:17:34,110 --> 02:17:31,660
have quite enough to speed audience here

3077
02:17:36,479 --> 02:17:34,120
at the para cast and and these are I

3078
02:17:38,490 --> 02:17:36,489
think pretty well worn subjects work for

3079
02:17:40,709 --> 02:17:38,500
us and I think you're gonna get a lot of

3080
02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:40,719
feedback on our forms after the show we

3081
02:17:44,669 --> 02:17:42,880
have a thread that's going to be posted

3082
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:44,679
where people are going to be commenting

3083
02:17:49,530 --> 02:17:48,370
on the show and and in you're invited if

3084
02:17:51,809 --> 02:17:49,540
you have the time I know you're very

3085
02:17:53,969 --> 02:17:51,819
busy but if you have the time we'd love

3086
02:17:57,030 --> 02:17:53,979
to get your feedback after you put on my

3087
02:17:59,549 --> 02:17:57,040
website I've a web where people can

3088
02:18:03,870 --> 02:17:59,559
reach me and my website of the ESP

3089
02:18:05,490 --> 02:18:03,880
research calm okay and if you understand

3090
02:18:08,009 --> 02:18:05,500
you're really busy but if you'd like to

3091
02:18:10,530 --> 02:18:08,019
come and and participate in our forum it

3092
02:18:12,540 --> 02:18:10,540
would be great obviously people can ask

3093
02:18:13,349 --> 02:18:12,550
questions at your website what is your

3094
02:18:18,089 --> 02:18:13,359
website Roz

3095
02:18:19,979 --> 02:18:18,099
our website is ESP research comm and you

3096
02:18:22,740 --> 02:18:19,989
can communicate with me and I'll

3097
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:22,750
generally answer questions that have an

3098
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:25,120
answer so if you write to me at ESP

3099
02:18:30,330 --> 02:18:28,090
research comm there's a way of then

3100
02:18:32,219 --> 02:18:30,340
communicating directly with me on my

3101
02:18:34,679 --> 02:18:32,229
screen and I'll be happy to answer your

3102
02:18:37,650 --> 02:18:34,689
questions it doesn't have to be by ESP

3103
02:18:40,830 --> 02:18:37,660
then that's right I also have quite a

3104
02:18:44,099 --> 02:18:40,840
number of videos on my website we can

3105
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:44,109
see people doing remote viewing swiftly

3106
02:18:48,599 --> 02:18:46,090
on camera Wow

3107
02:18:51,450 --> 02:18:48,609
well I have a couple of questions here

3108
02:18:54,760 --> 02:18:51,460
in our question Bank that that's in

3109
02:18:57,661 --> 02:18:54,770
relation to the closing down of

3110
02:19:00,161 --> 02:18:57,671
for Project Star Gate in 1995 on

3111
02:19:01,900 --> 02:19:00,171
Wikipedia for instance they say that it

3112
02:19:04,420 --> 02:19:01,910
was closed down because no useful

3113
02:19:06,550 --> 02:19:04,430
information was being generated reading

3114
02:19:09,070 --> 02:19:06,560
your book it looks like a ton of useful

3115
02:19:12,371 --> 02:19:09,080
information was generated and the

3116
02:19:14,860 --> 02:19:12,381
potential for more was very obviously

3117
02:19:16,541 --> 02:19:14,870
demonstrated do you think that the

3118
02:19:19,180 --> 02:19:16,551
project was shut down

3119
02:19:23,170 --> 02:19:19,190
you mentioned Bob gates being involved

3120
02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:23,180
in the you know the fall of the Berlin

3121
02:19:25,991 --> 02:19:24,770
Wall and the Iron Curtain and that sort

3122
02:19:28,270 --> 02:19:26,001
of thing do you think that there is

3123
02:19:30,880 --> 02:19:28,280
still secretly some sort of program

3124
02:19:32,920 --> 02:19:30,890
going in the intelligence communities

3125
02:19:34,810 --> 02:19:32,930
and what do you what how would you look

3126
02:19:37,930 --> 02:19:34,820
at that now do you think they develop

3127
02:19:42,010 --> 02:19:37,940
these techniques from where you live a

3128
02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:42,020
two-part question the gates did indeed

3129
02:19:47,130 --> 02:19:44,330
say that we never provided any useful

3130
02:19:51,400 --> 02:19:47,140
information but that's obviously a lie

3131
02:19:53,711 --> 02:19:51,410
because the CIA supported us for 23

3132
02:19:56,081 --> 02:19:53,721
years to have a couple of million

3133
02:19:59,350 --> 02:19:56,091
dollars a year to provide them with

3134
02:20:01,331 --> 02:19:59,360
information now it's very difficult to

3135
02:20:03,970 --> 02:20:01,341
get follow-on work from the government

3136
02:20:05,801 --> 02:20:03,980
to do anything when I was putting lasers

3137
02:20:07,961 --> 02:20:05,811
on airplanes and demonstrated the

3138
02:20:10,751 --> 02:20:07,971
weakest the air turbulence and wind

3139
02:20:13,541 --> 02:20:10,761
shear it was very hard to get one

3140
02:20:15,251 --> 02:20:13,551
additional year to actually flight test

3141
02:20:18,491 --> 02:20:15,261
this to show that we could save

3142
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:18,501
airplanes it's hard to get a million

3143
02:20:22,991 --> 02:20:20,330
dollars to demonstrate our wind shear

3144
02:20:25,541 --> 02:20:23,001
program the fact that we had two million

3145
02:20:28,961 --> 02:20:25,551
dollars a year for more than 20 years

3146
02:20:32,770 --> 02:20:28,971
from the same agency to do the same

3147
02:20:35,110 --> 02:20:32,780
thing proves I would say that we must

3148
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:35,120
have been doing something useful or they

3149
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:37,040
wouldn't take the heat they were getting

3150
02:20:39,911 --> 02:20:39,290
from Congress and continue to give us

3151
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:39,921
money

3152
02:20:44,051 --> 02:20:42,410
nobody will support a program for 20

3153
02:20:46,751 --> 02:20:44,061
years doing the same thing it's not

3154
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:46,761
working yeah yeah that's a no-brainer

3155
02:20:52,390 --> 02:20:50,570
so so how about now have you been

3156
02:20:56,140 --> 02:20:52,400
approached by the intelligence community

3157
02:20:59,350 --> 02:20:56,150
about releasing some of these case cases

3158
02:21:02,951 --> 02:20:59,360
and you mentioned that there was quite a

3159
02:21:04,841 --> 02:21:02,961
declassification effort that was

3160
02:21:06,551 --> 02:21:04,851
undertaken which allowed you to release

3161
02:21:08,540 --> 02:21:06,561
some of this information but do you

3162
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:08,550
think that there are still

3163
02:21:14,590 --> 02:21:11,370
groups within the intelligence community

3164
02:21:17,050 --> 02:21:14,600
or let's say the the military or other

3165
02:21:19,460 --> 02:21:17,060
branches of government that that are

3166
02:21:21,620 --> 02:21:19,470
using these techniques and using these

3167
02:21:25,130 --> 02:21:21,630
these latent abilities that we all have

3168
02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:25,140
for intelligence purposes are you aware

3169
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:27,450
of of this type of program continuing

3170
02:21:32,030 --> 02:21:30,210
we'll have a response from dr. target

3171
02:21:33,889 --> 02:21:32,040
our next segment at first let me remind

3172
02:21:35,630 --> 02:21:33,899
you that you could reach the power

3173
02:21:38,270 --> 02:21:35,640
castes on Twitter where we're known as

3174
02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:38,280
the power cast we also have two power

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02:21:44,450 --> 02:21:41,850
casts fan clubs on Facebook and someday

3176
02:21:47,059 --> 02:21:44,460
somebody will tell me how to make them

3177
02:21:50,059 --> 02:21:47,069
into just one Russell Targ is author of

3178
02:21:52,040 --> 02:21:50,069
the reality of ESP a physicist proof of

3179
02:21:55,320 --> 02:21:52,050
psychic abilities you're on with gene

3180
02:22:02,380 --> 02:21:55,330
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physicist dr. Stanton Friedman you are

3281
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listening to the paranormal so the

3282
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question asks by Chris O'Brien with gene

3283
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Steinberg on the power cast of dr.

3284
02:26:43,710 --> 02:26:40,840
Russell Targ

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about ongoing research and such what's

3286
02:26:48,359 --> 02:26:45,909
your response my response to that I

3287
02:26:51,269 --> 02:26:48,369
think that there is not a ASP program in

3288
02:26:53,250 --> 02:26:51,279
the government because it requires as I

3289
02:26:56,340 --> 02:26:53,260
mentioned earlier a lot of intelligence

3290
02:26:58,349 --> 02:26:56,350
and courage and this current government

3291
02:27:02,219 --> 02:26:58,359
has not distinguished itself by a lot of

3292
02:27:04,529 --> 02:27:02,229
intelligence and courage so my guess is

3293
02:27:06,660 --> 02:27:04,539
that there is no ESP going on in the

3294
02:27:08,370 --> 02:27:06,670
government but there might be a secret

3295
02:27:11,010 --> 02:27:08,380
program in the basement of the Pentagon

3296
02:27:13,500 --> 02:27:11,020
that they don't know about so you can

3297
02:27:16,920 --> 02:27:13,510
never tell I think that it's unlikely

3298
02:27:21,960 --> 02:27:16,930
that there is an ongoing program but I

3299
02:27:25,319 --> 02:27:21,970
know that during the hunt for Osama bin

3300
02:27:25,889 --> 02:27:25,329
Laden individual program individual

3301
02:27:28,920 --> 02:27:25,899
people

3302
02:27:32,790 --> 02:27:28,930
from the army program had been contacted

3303
02:27:33,809 --> 02:27:32,800
to help on a freelance basis but I don't

3304
02:27:36,090 --> 02:27:33,819
believe that there's an ongoing

3305
02:27:38,699 --> 02:27:36,100
government program today I've not heard

3306
02:27:41,599 --> 02:27:38,709
about it well it would seem to me that

3307
02:27:43,349 --> 02:27:41,609
with with the just I mean spectacular

3308
02:27:45,449 --> 02:27:43,359
results that you were able to

3309
02:27:47,909 --> 02:27:45,459
demonstrate that this would be a viable

3310
02:27:51,120 --> 02:27:47,919
tool for the intelligence services have

3311
02:27:54,809 --> 02:27:51,130
for instance the the NSA the National

3312
02:27:57,960 --> 02:27:54,819
Security Administration I have you ever

3313
02:28:02,370 --> 02:27:57,970
done any sort of task work for them over

3314
02:28:04,590 --> 02:28:02,380
the years well the NSA we've never done

3315
02:28:07,649 --> 02:28:04,600
a program for them but we did scare them

3316
02:28:09,929 --> 02:28:07,659
we were talking to the NSA we had

3317
02:28:12,809 --> 02:28:09,939
contact with Bobby Inman who is head of

3318
02:28:16,620 --> 02:28:12,819
the NSA and they didn't want to show us

3319
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:16,630
any of their code so I had a very

3320
02:28:22,409 --> 02:28:18,850
original idea I said why don't you send

3321
02:28:26,729 --> 02:28:22,419
us a paragraph did you compose paragraph

3322
02:28:31,109 --> 02:28:26,739
pertaining to anything seal it up sent

3323
02:28:33,659 --> 02:28:31,119
it to us in a top secret folder so that

3324
02:28:36,319 --> 02:28:33,669
we would not have access to it but it

3325
02:28:39,659 --> 02:28:36,329
could then exist in the vault at SSRI

3326
02:28:42,449 --> 02:28:39,669
and what I propose is will have Ingo

3327
02:28:44,609 --> 02:28:42,459
Swann our path price take a look at this

3328
02:28:47,580 --> 02:28:44,619
sealed up document that you send to us

3329
02:28:49,620 --> 02:28:47,590
and tell you the content of the

3330
02:28:52,529 --> 02:28:49,630
paragraph written in your very best

3331
02:28:55,219 --> 02:28:52,539
fight cipher and that's so upset them

3332
02:28:59,580 --> 02:28:55,229
that was the end of our conversation

3333
02:29:02,729 --> 02:28:59,590
there is a digital stunned with the idea

3334
02:29:05,370 --> 02:29:02,739
that we didn't even have to see the that

3335
02:29:07,649 --> 02:29:05,380
if their idea is they have a cipher the

3336
02:29:11,639 --> 02:29:07,659
people can pour over and never figure

3337
02:29:13,679 --> 02:29:11,649
out what the characters are we felt that

3338
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:13,689
you can keep your stinking characters we

3339
02:29:18,019 --> 02:29:15,850
don't have to look at them just give us

3340
02:29:21,359 --> 02:29:18,029
the document will tell you what it says

3341
02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:21,369
and and and that blew them away so much

3342
02:29:23,880 --> 02:29:23,439
that they refused to do that and get

3343
02:29:26,819 --> 02:29:23,890
involved

3344
02:29:29,309 --> 02:29:26,829
well that that happened together with

3345
02:29:31,319 --> 02:29:29,319
Pat price reading the code words off the

3346
02:29:34,170 --> 02:29:31,329
front of the filing cabinet also upset

3347
02:29:35,880 --> 02:29:34,180
that well you would think that they

3348
02:29:38,059 --> 02:29:35,890
would you know they would see the forest

3349
02:29:41,119 --> 02:29:38,069
for the trees there and and recognize

3350
02:29:43,819 --> 02:29:41,129
is the potential you know for gathering

3351
02:29:45,739 --> 02:29:43,829
intelligence I mean not to me well maybe

3352
02:29:47,359 --> 02:29:45,749
they're afraid of your putting them out

3353
02:29:50,599 --> 02:29:47,369
of a job or so I don't want it to be

3354
02:29:53,689 --> 02:29:50,609
true it would be such a disaster that

3355
02:29:54,380 --> 02:29:53,699
they don't even they're gonna wait for

3356
02:29:58,130 --> 02:29:54,390
it to surface

3357
02:30:00,559 --> 02:29:58,140
oh well that's Pennywise pound-foolish

3358
02:30:02,510 --> 02:30:00,569
as far as I'm concerned boy the amount

3359
02:30:05,989 --> 02:30:02,520
of money we spent throwing these these

3360
02:30:09,559 --> 02:30:05,999
satellites up there and and with echelon

3361
02:30:11,569 --> 02:30:09,569
and you know this new data mining and

3362
02:30:14,569 --> 02:30:11,579
data gathering facility they're building

3363
02:30:17,869 --> 02:30:14,579
in Utah billions of dollars boy it sure

3364
02:30:19,670 --> 02:30:17,879
sounds like this is a really inexpensive

3365
02:30:21,559 --> 02:30:19,680
way to possibly really gain some real

3366
02:30:23,929 --> 02:30:21,569
quality intelligence I'm surprised that

3367
02:30:27,290 --> 02:30:23,939
they wouldn't jump all over that yeah we

3368
02:30:29,210 --> 02:30:27,300
never had any dough from them Bobby

3369
02:30:31,399 --> 02:30:29,220
Inman is a pretty open-minded guy I mean

3370
02:30:33,500 --> 02:30:31,409
you know I'm sure some of our listeners

3371
02:30:35,479 --> 02:30:33,510
are aware that hitman has expressed in

3372
02:30:37,969 --> 02:30:35,489
the past interested in the UFO subject

3373
02:30:40,880 --> 02:30:37,979
for instance I would be surprised

3374
02:30:42,349 --> 02:30:40,890
dealing back then that he he wouldn't

3375
02:30:44,269 --> 02:30:42,359
have been more open-minded about it

3376
02:30:45,920 --> 02:30:44,279
I think it's care that they don't want

3377
02:30:50,119 --> 02:30:45,930
it they don't want to be tarred with the

3378
02:30:52,340 --> 02:30:50,129
sticky ESP brush that's a book like

3379
02:30:55,279 --> 02:30:52,350
you've written you know the reality of

3380
02:30:58,329 --> 02:30:55,289
ESP I think that this this goes a long

3381
02:31:00,349 --> 02:30:58,339
way of making this more of a mainstream

3382
02:31:02,599 --> 02:31:00,359
subject and in allowing people

3383
02:31:04,579 --> 02:31:02,609
permission to get involved because

3384
02:31:06,710 --> 02:31:04,589
science has demonstrated beyond a shadow

3385
02:31:09,889 --> 02:31:06,720
of a doubt based on what I'm reading in

3386
02:31:12,529 --> 02:31:09,899
your book that these abilities not only

3387
02:31:15,649 --> 02:31:12,539
exist but but we all have them I mean

3388
02:31:18,739 --> 02:31:15,659
that's true my first book was helped put

3389
02:31:21,439 --> 02:31:18,749
off called mind reach or was really

3390
02:31:24,979 --> 02:31:21,449
kindling to get the program started that

3391
02:31:26,869 --> 02:31:24,989
is some of the army people high up and

3392
02:31:29,689 --> 02:31:26,879
army intelligence command

3393
02:31:32,540 --> 02:31:29,699
saw our first book which was before the

3394
02:31:37,369 --> 02:31:32,550
CIA support and that stimulated the

3395
02:31:39,970 --> 02:31:37,379
government to support us 1976 that gave

3396
02:31:43,270 --> 02:31:39,980
rise to the army program

3397
02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:43,280
well can you recommend now I'm sure

3398
02:31:47,890 --> 02:31:44,960
you're gonna light a candle under a lot

3399
02:31:49,841 --> 02:31:47,900
of our our listeners out there who will

3400
02:31:51,551 --> 02:31:49,851
want to explore their own abilities here

3401
02:31:54,040 --> 02:31:51,561
where would you recommend they go to

3402
02:31:56,230 --> 02:31:54,050
find out where they can get trained do

3403
02:31:58,210 --> 02:31:56,240
you recommend any particular training

3404
02:32:00,490 --> 02:31:58,220
programs or remote viewers are you

3405
02:32:02,980 --> 02:32:00,500
mentioned Joe mcmoneagle of course Lynne

3406
02:32:07,240 --> 02:32:02,990
Buchanan is another one I know that that

3407
02:32:10,150 --> 02:32:07,250
has been Austin Texas Parnell Smith Paul

3408
02:32:12,940 --> 02:32:10,160
Smith in Austin Texas okay there's a

3409
02:32:15,940 --> 02:32:12,950
good guy I recommend that anybody who

3410
02:32:18,841 --> 02:32:15,950
wants to develop a psychic ability read

3411
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my book and I have a whole chapter

3412
02:32:24,610 --> 02:32:21,800
describing how you can work with a

3413
02:32:27,070 --> 02:32:24,620
partner to help each other develop your

3414
02:32:31,030 --> 02:32:27,080
psychic ability there's a two person

3415
02:32:35,200 --> 02:32:31,040
game your partner will bring you little

3416
02:32:37,360 --> 02:32:35,210
objects in a bag and guide you to not

3417
02:32:40,091 --> 02:32:37,370
name the object to describe your

3418
02:32:42,761 --> 02:32:40,101
feelings describe the images that come

3419
02:32:45,390 --> 02:32:42,771
into your awareness and keep you moving

3420
02:32:49,480 --> 02:32:45,400
and guide you along the path a

3421
02:32:52,720 --> 02:32:49,490
relaxation and quieting your mind and

3422
02:32:55,720 --> 02:32:52,730
describing the surprising things that

3423
02:32:58,030 --> 02:32:55,730
show up in your consciousness and you

3424
02:33:00,040 --> 02:32:58,040
need this is a two person you can't do

3425
02:33:02,110 --> 02:33:00,050
this for yourself because you need

3426
02:33:04,511 --> 02:33:02,120
somebody to bring you interesting little

3427
02:33:07,570 --> 02:33:04,521
objects and after you've done a couple

3428
02:33:10,150 --> 02:33:07,580
of these you know you'll realize well

3429
02:33:13,631 --> 02:33:10,160
maybe I'm just reading the mind of my

3430
02:33:17,440 --> 02:33:13,641
friend which indeed you probably are you

3431
02:33:20,830 --> 02:33:17,450
say okay it's time to graduate now bring

3432
02:33:23,500 --> 02:33:20,840
me three bags that are the same and then

3433
02:33:25,870 --> 02:33:23,510
randomly choose one so you don't know

3434
02:33:28,720 --> 02:33:25,880
what's in the bag today and I'll

3435
02:33:30,940 --> 02:33:28,730
describe what's in the secret bag well

3436
02:33:34,210 --> 02:33:30,950
you can't lead to me or clue me because

3437
02:33:36,131 --> 02:33:34,220
you don't know what to the bag and you

3438
02:33:39,131 --> 02:33:36,141
don't want the bag to be on the table

3439
02:33:41,591 --> 02:33:39,141
you're just designate we're gonna look

3440
02:33:43,390 --> 02:33:41,601
at bag three today you don't want the

3441
02:33:45,460 --> 02:33:43,400
bag on the table because that won't lead

3442
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:45,470
you to try and use your x-ray vision

3443
02:33:51,640 --> 02:33:48,650
like Superman and that's really not how

3444
02:33:53,679 --> 02:33:51,650
ESP works I think what we're just about

3445
02:33:55,960 --> 02:33:53,689
out of time here dr. Tareq teller

3446
02:33:57,370 --> 02:33:55,970
listeners where they can find more

3447
02:33:59,500 --> 02:33:57,380
information about your book and also

3448
02:34:01,809 --> 02:33:59,510
about your site can find more

3449
02:34:04,359 --> 02:34:01,819
information about remote viewing how

3450
02:34:08,109 --> 02:34:04,369
it's done and how to do it by website

3451
02:34:10,059 --> 02:34:08,119
ESP research comm shows my book shows

3452
02:34:13,479 --> 02:34:10,069
videos of people doing remote viewing

3453
02:34:15,460 --> 02:34:13,489
and give you clues how to get started do

3454
02:34:18,099 --> 02:34:15,470
you do public appearances or is it just

3455
02:34:21,960 --> 02:34:18,109
radio shows these days I do public

3456
02:34:25,149 --> 02:34:21,970
appearances I teach with Deepak Chopra

3457
02:34:30,099 --> 02:34:25,159
once or twice a year I'm going to be at

3458
02:34:33,059 --> 02:34:30,109
San Francisco Expo the end of April I'm

3459
02:34:36,279 --> 02:34:33,069
no longer doing workshops because that's

3460
02:34:38,859 --> 02:34:36,289
I'm now getting old enough so that

3461
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having to work with people for a week

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being responsible for the having good

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experiences that is more than I want to

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do but I'll do a one-day session which

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is what I do is Deepak Chopra and what

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I'll do it the sensitive to Expo I think

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April 27th and let's go nice enter oh

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yes where they used to hold the Macworld

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Expo before Apple gave that up Chris

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O'Brien tell our listeners where they

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can find more of your stuff and are you

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to be found on any future TV shows that

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we should check out yeah I actually have

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a number of them coming up mysteries are

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the national parks I'm doing a segment

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for them there's another we're actually

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developing a show for the History

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Channel which I'll talk more about once

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we get a little further in the process

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but if you're interested in my work go

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to our strange planet it is a strange

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planet it's our strange planet calm and

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by the way you can find us on Facebook

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where we are known as the power cast and

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as I've said in the past we have to

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power cast fan clubs on Facebook and as

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of today nobody has advised us how to

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make it just one or can you on Twitter

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now Twitter by the way they tell me now

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is only supposed to be a place where

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crabby people hang out to complain I

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hope not but we're on Twitter as the

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para cast the Power casts on Twitter so

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there you go we're not crabby at all

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Regina Norris

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really appreciative dr. Tarr for taking

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the time to to share this wonderful

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information and really go into depth

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about your book much success with the

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book and thank you so much for being our

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guest at the podcast thank you very much

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I'm appreciative of the opportunity I'm

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the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

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and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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presentation of making the impossible